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  •  Do you think (2+ / 0-)
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    being an asshole to people who are not/no longer Catholic and hijacking diaries moves the needle towards anything resembling a solution?

    Fear doesn't just breed incomprehension. It also breeds a spiteful, resentful hate of anyone and everyone who is in any way different from you.

    by awesumtenor on Wed Jan 15, 2014 at 04:24:59 PM PST

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    •  Well now we don't have to worry (0+ / 0-)

      about the nonsensical committee to study the child abuse problem.  The UN has officially taken up the issue and will be grilling the Vatican about it.

      Now why, do you suppose, the RCC only decided to deal with the abuse issues when they came into the light of day?  Seems to  me that if this institution represents any kind of morality, it's response would have been to clean it up instead of covering it up.  Even Francis was involved in a cover up incident in Argentina.  

      So what you call "being an asshole" I call using reaon and skepticism, especially when it comes to institutions as corrupt as the RCC.

      Hijacking? How silly.

      •  You keep using those words (0+ / 0-)

        I dont think they mean what you think they mean. Given your Pavlovian anger response anytime the RCC is mentioned it is clear to everyone except you that there is no reason in and nothing reasonable about your actions... I have neither stated nor implied that the RCC as an institution representative of any kind of morality but hey; why let something as insignificant as facts get in the way of a good rant. This diary is not about RCC clergy pedophilia and sexual abuse and every diary and comment that mentions the RCC is not obligated to discuss that just because you are stuck on it. We live in a country and in a society that has been racist since 1607 yet if I were to take a page out of your book and try to force you to discuss why you are complicit in perpetuating that racism you would not accept that framing as valid...nor would you think I had any right to try to force a diary not about racism to jump the track the diarist put it on in order to make it about what I want and you would not even entertain the idea that my attempting to do so was remotely the product of reason.

        So your being an asshole is nothing more than your being an asshole sans reason and sans logic... what you are claiming to be reason and skepticism is reactive and visceral and occurs for the same reason your leg moves when the doctor strike your patella in the right place...

        Fear doesn't just breed incomprehension. It also breeds a spiteful, resentful hate of anyone and everyone who is in any way different from you.

        by awesumtenor on Thu Jan 16, 2014 at 08:26:24 AM PST

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        •  This diary is about giving weight (0+ / 0-)

          to the writings/opinions of a man who has no moral/ethical right (or even the educational expertise) to be lecturing the rest of the world on economics, social justice, materialism, capitalism, the 1%, the poor or poverty, equality, etc. etc.  

          This is certainly totally connected to your claim that he should be listened to on these topics.  You say he should be listened to and I say he shouldn't.  

          I hope that is succinct enough for you.

        •  And one more thing.... (0+ / 0-)

          you need to work on the name calling.  Note that even though I strongly disagree with the premise of this diary, I have not called you or anyone else who doesn't share my views an "asshole".

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