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  •  Well... (12+ / 0-)

    I too was born and raised in WI, sixty years ago.

    I remember our beautiful streets, lined with our gorgeous elm trees before we lost them all.

    I remember the smells from Pigsville, under the viaducts.  I remember the smells from the breweries and Ambrosia Chocolate, and Milwaukee Yeast Co., and the tanning factory.

    I remember our public school system ranking in the top 5 or higher every year, K through 12.  I remember our low unemployment rates, Briggs, PowerProducts, AOSmith, Harley, Caterpillar, John Deere, and GM.

    I remember seeing family farms all over the state, ne'er a factory farm anywhere.  

    What do we have now?  High unemployment, most of our manufacturing base gone, school system sucks.  As a trucker for years, I always bragged about the great roads in WI and how clean our interstates were.  Not anymore.  Roads are crap and debris-filled.  You wait forever for a plow or salt truck in snow storms.  

    I'm sorry Mark, but this state is a wreck and getting worse by the day.  I bash the place on a regular basis.  Yes, GOP rule has wreaked havoc on the place, no question, but the rubes voting for these assholes don't seem to get it.  I see this state getting redder by the day and frankly would not be shocked to see Walker re-elected.

    Your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore. John Prine -8.00,-5.79

    by Miss Blue on Mon Jan 20, 2014 at 06:43:31 PM PST

    •  I agree (5+ / 0-)

      I understand what Mark is saying, but I don't think people are bashing Wisconsin as much as we are just angry. It's my home state too, and I identify with everything that Mark said about being a WisKHANsen native...

      Here's a link to a comment I made in a diary a little while ago, kinda saying the same thing that you're saying....sad.

      "Mediocrity cannot know excellence." -- Sherlock Holmes

      by La Gitane on Mon Jan 20, 2014 at 07:20:47 PM PST

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      •  I understand too (4+ / 0-)
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        I get what Mark is saying and I feel for him, truly.

        My DiL was a Madison teacher until this past summer.  She quit - another great teacher lost to our kids because of Walker.  Before that, the few of my family still in this state were at the Capital all winter, every weekend, protesting in the cold.

        I hate what has happened here and will work with every ounce of energy I have to change things but I find myself generally agreeing with the folks bashing the place in the meantime.  I can't get angry with them when I feel the same way.

        I'm way past the crying stage - now I am angry and will stay that way until Walker and his gang of criminals are gone.  

        Your flag decal won't get you into heaven anymore. John Prine -8.00,-5.79

        by Miss Blue on Mon Jan 20, 2014 at 07:30:11 PM PST

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    •  On the other hand.... (9+ / 0-)

      I live in Marquette County, a traditional conservative stronghold, that is specifically, conservative first, Republican second, and right-winger not-so-much. That hierarchy is important to understand because what it means here is that you can talk to conservatives, at least here you can, while right-wingers are beyond reach.

      I'd say our biggest problem in having a dialog with our conservative contingent is that the starting point has been put so horribly far off-base with reality by Fox News. But it also means that with some patience, progress can be made breaking down the Faux lies.

      Where we may stand to see improvement is that the recall put the progressives of this area, and yes, we are out here, in touch with each other. We've formed coalitions and friendships which will last, and have come out of hiding to be visible components of our communities. I no longer have to go to Madison to get organic food; one of us has opened a natural food store/cafe in Montello (in sight of the county's only stop light) where the resurgent County Democratic Party sometimes holds their meetings, and local progressives keep friendships and hope alive. With a growing local demand, a few farmers are going organic and growing not just produce, but an expanding progressive network in plain sight of our conservative neighbors.

      Not far to the north of here, the Friends of the Central Sands, a coalition of concerned rural Wisconsin citizens has raised and managed over a quarter million dollars and won a court decision forcing the DNR to do its job of environmentally assessing the effects of  high-capacity well pumping in the vicinity of the proposed Richfield Dairy near Coloma, WI

      I'm not saying we're gonna flip things right away, but the groundwork for positive change has been laid in an area that most outside progressives would just normally write off.

      And our roads are awesomely well-maintained and plowed.

      "All war is stupid" - JFK

      by jorogo on Tue Jan 21, 2014 at 06:24:46 AM PST

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