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  •  Here's where I think you are stretching it. (2+ / 0-)
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    is utterly, absolutely, completely, totally shown to be a lie when you meet with him DURING event X.
    If Christie "met with" Wildstein during the traffic jam, that would be a really, really big deal.

    Being at the same event, in the same group of people, is not "meeting with" that person under any normal use of that term that I know.  

    I've been to lots of meetings, and I've been part of groups at lots of events like that.  I think most people understand there's a difference between the two.  

    •  The two men met (19+ / 0-)

      That is what the word "meet" means.
      I have a picture that show the two men meeting, right up there.

      If you've never worked in a place where work gets done outside of scheduled meetings in conference rooms I feel pity for you. But in the way the English language works, "meet" does not require an appointment.

      I'm on a mission! Testing the new site rules.

      by blue aardvark on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 10:37:45 AM PST

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      •  It's a connotation (1+ / 0-)
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        "I met Joe Smith" means I was introduced to him, or I said, "Hi, I'm coffeetalk, what's your name?"

        "I MET WITH" Joe Smith means we deliberately came together to discuss a particular topic.  "Hey, Joe, can I talk to you about that traffic jam"? can be "meeting with" Joe Smith.

        If I go to the commemoration of the Battle of New Orleans (just last weekend) I don't say I "met with" the people around me at that commemoration.  Most people would say, "I went to the commemoration, and I saw Joe Smith there."  Nobody I know would call that "meeting with Joe Smith" or as you said "met with" David Wildstein.  

        You said he "met with" Wildstein.  That may have happened, but this picture doesn't show that.  It shows that they were in the same group at the commemoration of 9/11.  

    •  You're sadly trying to defend this buffoon (16+ / 0-)

      Christie in the most obtuse way.

      Here's a photograph showing the man is a liar. And you are defending him with all sorts of "This shows nothing."

      That means one thing to me, very clearly. And I'm sure everyone can see what you're doing for what it is.

      "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

      by YucatanMan on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 11:01:31 AM PST

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      •  Shades of her (iirc) Zimmerman performance. (9+ / 0-)


        Pragmatic Centrists? meh. Clive all hat no horse Rodeo? He's cool ~ JV

        by JVolvo on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 11:16:32 AM PST

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        •  Believes the Laffer Curve - nearly universally (5+ / 0-)
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          deriden by any reputable economists - has validity.

          That's BS and has been proven over and over. Kennedy tax cuts had little to nothing to do with the economic engine that the end of WWII had set up for the USA and a recovering world by the time the 1960s arrived..

          "The law is meant to be my servant and not my master, still less my torturer and my murderer." -- James Baldwin. July 11, 1966.

          by YucatanMan on Tue Jan 14, 2014 at 02:02:26 PM PST

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      •  That isn't a Christie defense! It is a sharpening (0+ / 0-)

        of the accusations though and is not obtuse.

        The photo doesn't show he is a liar. It raises questions and eyebrows but it does not contradict what christie said

        I have had no contact with David Wildstein in a long time, a long time, well before the election,” which was held Nov. 5, Mr. Christie said last week. “You know, I could probably count on one hand the number of conversations I’ve had with David since he worked at the Port Authority. I did not interact with David.”
        The picture was 2 months before the election (well before the election)
        It shows them being in the same place, not them having a conversation even
        It doesn't show that they had conversations more than he could count on one hand.

        I don't know the poster you are accusing but I know me pretty well and I agree with his points.
        and I think this scandal will and should bring him down.

    •  You're being ridiculous at this point (1+ / 0-)
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      Christie did meet with Wildstein during the imbroglio as the photo attests.  They had the opportunity to discuss it if either were inclined because they were at the same place at the same time by each other's side.

      If you were at a meeting with a group of people and had an issue to discuss with one of them, you would take the time to address the issue with that person.  This photo shows opportunity.  If Christie did not take that opportunity to raise the problem with any of the PA appointees, it raises the question, why not?  All of your parsing over the meaning of "meet" is unavailing.

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