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  •  way to make friends ^ & influence people, (6+ / 0-)

    bleedingheartliberal218. NOT.

    They're fed propaganda everywhere. On the tv and the radio, in the local papers, at the church ... and there's no effort to reach out, because we're so busy dismissing them as stupid and bigoted.

    No wonder they don't believe we care.

    Clearly, we don't care. Or we'd do something.

    LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

    by BlackSheep1 on Wed Jan 15, 2014 at 12:00:06 PM PST

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    •  I see that many on the left suffer from being (0+ / 0-)

      discriminatory due to their righteousness. Sad.

    •  Liberals Question Authority, Conservatives (1+ / 0-)
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      blindly and unquestioningly obey authority.

      Conservatives have a disdain for Facts and TRUTH and go with their gut reaction on issues due to their lack of ananlytical thinking ability.

      Fox Noise knows this well -- that's why their outrageous lies and right-wing propaganda appeal to the paranoid and delusional authoritarian-brained, knuckle-dragging troglodytes in the self-named Party of Stupid.

      Feel free to waste your time dealing with your buddies from Red States and other right-wing websites trying to influence them and convince them of the intellectual superiority of your values, beliefs, and politics, BlackSheep1.

      (Remember NY's US Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan who famously and angrily said to a conservative senator during a public debate, "You are entitled to your own opinions but not your own facts.")

      •  Liberals question authority. (1+ / 0-)
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        HAHAHAHA!!!! Now that's some funny
        stuff.  We used but not anymore.

      •  no, see, that's the trouble: (1+ / 0-)
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        they don't give a damn about intellectual superiority.
        They're scared of losing a job, having a sick kid, maybe missing a house payment.

        We haven't done squat to help working people (the ACA may be a possible exception) since the Carter years, and he wasn't as effective as LBJ.

        So the people have, in three generations (fifty years!) forgotten that the Dems used to stand up for labor and the poor.

        We quit doing it, they quit believing we ever might.

        LBJ, Van Cliburn, Ike, Wendy Davis, Lady Bird, Ann Richards, Barbara Jordan, Molly Ivins, Sully Sullenburger, Drew Brees: Texas is NO Bush League!

        by BlackSheep1 on Wed Jan 15, 2014 at 05:01:40 PM PST

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    •  some care and some do act locally.... (2+ / 0-)

      but there are no progressive, environmentally strong candidates to chose from.  I think the liberal disdain for coal because it causes global warming comingles with a disdain for the people who work in these industries.  In many parts of the state, these are the only jobs to support the community.  But these jobs are ultimately not sustainable.  So if people want to preserve coal as their way of life and think that they have 250 years of coal left (not likely) then it is pretty hard to convince them to vote against what little economic interest they have.  

      Senator Byrd devoted himself to diversifying the WV economy.  He mostly did it by transferring government agencies to WV.  That is why there is some much employment in the eastern panhandle as well as a few other parts of the state- Clarksburg had the FBI (employing several thousands) and Parkerburg has the Bureau of the Budget.  Morgantown has NIOSH.  Huntington has the port of Huntington and the Army Core, controlling traffic on 900 miles of the Ohio River.  College towns have better colleges because he helped with buildings and institutes.  

      We need to seriously talk about a post-coal economy, but every time something looks set to change, then a Republican gets elected and rolls back all progress on the environment.  If we are going to abandon coal, could we retrain the workers?

      You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

      by murrayewv on Wed Jan 15, 2014 at 02:55:51 PM PST

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    •  Not true (1+ / 0-)
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      "there's no effort to reach out, because we're so busy dismissing them as stupid and bigoted."

      Lots of people have tried to reach out to them.

      They failed, because the people they tried to reach out to were stupid and bigoted.

      You can only beat your head against a wall for so long before you're force to concede that there's a wall there.

      "Clearly, we don't care. Or we'd do something."

      Some people have been trying to do something for a long time, but they always get outvoted.

      •  because not enough of our people vote (0+ / 0-)

        plain and simple.

        Why is that?

        In Texas it's largely because since w beat Ann Richards there's been a concerted effort to dilute our votes, permanently enjoin our registration (using Voter ID requirements engineered to disenfranchise Dems; they admitted that in the damn testimony!) and plain stop us from voting.

        Did the national party do anything? Gave 'em a wink, a grin and a slap on the back -- and hit us up for more money.

        Bullshit artists gonna bullshit.

        2,775,589 -- that's how many GOP voters it takes to wreck a state with a population of 26.45 million.

        by BlackSheep1 on Sat May 09, 2015 at 10:21:13 PM PDT

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