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  •  you're right (none)
    but just so people don't go quoting 'Farenheit 9/11' on this, there are now 7 congresspeople (out of 535) with children who have served or are on their way to serve in Iraq.

    "Problems cannot be solved by the same level of thinking that created them" Albert Einstein

    by Brecht on Thu Jun 30, 2005 at 06:47:25 PM PDT

    •  Parties? (none)
      Who are the 7 and what are their affiliations?

      Happy Birthday America! Dictators, Communists and Republican Pricks haven't brought you down, my friend. May you live long, into a ripe, happy old age.

      by socratic on Thu Jun 30, 2005 at 06:50:01 PM PDT

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      •  5 so far (none)
        Sen. Kit Bond           (R)
        Sen. Tim Johnson     (D)

        Rep. Joe Wilson       (R)
        Rep. Todd Akin        (R)
        Rep. Duncan Hunter (R)

        Still googling for the others

        "Problems cannot be solved by the same level of thinking that created them" Albert Einstein

        by Brecht on Thu Jun 30, 2005 at 07:07:15 PM PDT

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        •  Two Others (none)
          Senator Biden has a son who is in (I think) the Army National Guard and Rep. Marilyn Musgrave (R-Co) has a son in the Navy.
          •  yes, thanks (none)
            But I misspoke - these last two are in the armed forces, but not in Iraq.

            "Problems cannot be solved by the same level of thinking that created them" Albert Einstein

            by Brecht on Thu Jun 30, 2005 at 07:24:42 PM PDT

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            •  So.. (none)
              Should we be concerned that most of the 'critters who have kids in the military are Republicans, or are the numbers so small that the R-D split is meaningless?

              Happy Birthday America! Dictators, Communists and Republican Pricks haven't brought you down, my friend. May you live long, into a ripe, happy old age.

              by socratic on Thu Jun 30, 2005 at 07:30:20 PM PDT

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        •  One more (none)
          Rep. Ike Skelton, the senior Democrat on the Armed Services Committee, whose son is a Navy public affairs officer in Japan.

          So, with Biden, that makes 3 Dems and 5 Repubs with kids in the armed forces.

          "Problems cannot be solved by the same level of thinking that created them" Albert Einstein

          by Brecht on Thu Jun 30, 2005 at 07:31:01 PM PDT

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          •  That's... (none)
            ... ~1.5% of sitting congresscritters who have children currently in the military.  Sick.

            Now I'm curious how many have children between, say 16 and 35.

            Happy Birthday America! Dictators, Communists and Republican Pricks haven't brought you down, my friend. May you live long, into a ripe, happy old age.

            by socratic on Thu Jun 30, 2005 at 07:46:55 PM PDT

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            •  How many of your kids are over there? (none)
              All this is very nice and relevant.  But none of us want our kids to be in that shit-hole.  Why should we expect our Congressmen to be any better than the rest of us?

               The hypocrisy is that Republicans ask people to do stuff that they don't do for the same reasons the people don't do it.  As to the current numbers, the sample size is to small for the difference in means to be significantly different from zero.

              •  Which reinforces the point (none)
                that they're doing unto us what they would not have done unto themselves.

                Happy Birthday America! Dictators, Communists and Republican Pricks haven't brought you down, my friend. May you live long, into a ripe, happy old age.

                by socratic on Thu Jun 30, 2005 at 08:44:33 PM PDT

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                •  does no good here (none)
                  we gotta take the fight to these bastards. scoring points with each other on blogs is no good. start a campaign, follow these fuckers around, rub it in their faces instead of the other way around for a change.

                  they crack when pressure is put on them. they can't stand heat. let's give it to them.

                  •  On that point... (none)
                    ... I couldn't agree more.

                    Just getting the old ducks in a row, as it were.

                    Quack quack.

                    Happy Birthday America! Dictators, Communists and Republican Pricks haven't brought you down, my friend. May you live long, into a ripe, happy old age.

                    by socratic on Thu Jun 30, 2005 at 08:48:16 PM PDT

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              •  why "better"? (none)
                I wouldn't encourage MY kids to join the military to go fight unnecessary and destructive invasions and occupations like Iraq.  Then again, i'm not saying anyone should, unlike these senators.  I'm not the one who has to walk the talk.

                "I'm not big on propaganda. I leave that to the Republicans."
                -Howard Dean

                by Leggy Starlitz on Thu Jun 30, 2005 at 11:11:33 PM PDT

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              •  Because they supported this debacle (none)
                and continue to support Bush in his war.

                "If you are not outraged, you are not paying attention."

                by adigal on Fri Jul 01, 2005 at 04:56:53 AM PDT

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        •  Joe Biden III (Beau) (none)
          Beau served in Iraq prior to M. Moore's 9-11. Just as an FYI.

          "So the last throes will be 6 times longer than the actual war" (paraphrased: Jon Stewart)

          by katfish on Fri Jul 01, 2005 at 07:25:54 PM PDT

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    •  Does anybody know which ones? (none)
      The only one I know of is Sen. Tim Johnson's (D-SD) son.

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