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  •  Valid Point (none)
    You make a valid point -- about the calls for the Bush twins, etc. to be "forced" into enlistment by their warmongering parents.

    However, there are a couple of caveats that need to be raised.

    First, the idea of a volunteer army is somewhat of a misnomer, as the vast majority of the kids who sign up are not exactly the white-bread, SUV driving, suburban family types. The kids signing up (not exclusively, but somewhat disproportionately) are the ones who are on the lower end of the opportunity scale. Most of them are from poorer neighborhoods (either inner city or rural) with few options on how to improve themselves (which are ample for the suburban upscale kids).

    The idea that I think is being promulgated here (albeit, open to criticism -- like yours) is that the ones who are beating the drums loudest for this war are the ones who's families are least likely to be impacted by the horrors of the war. Kos, and others are attempting to highlight the hypocrisy of the situation. Certainly, these "leaders" could "encourage" one or more of their children to consider enlistment. In the end, the choice is that of the child -- but they aren't out there making calls for any enlistment drives at all.

    This is the point that was put forward in another way in the attempts to "recruit" at the recent Young Republicans conference.  These kids are the ones with the opportunities, and the ones who support the war effort (with words), but are too "important to the cause on the homefront" to risk their precious hides in Falluja or Najaf.

    •  Your points are excellent, (none)
      both the socioeconomic factor that plays into the lie of an all-volunteer army and about whose side of the scale is more heavily weighted.

      But what I was seeing up-thread felt more like transferring the sins of the fathers onto the kids' accounts than anything else.  My parents didn't protest the Vietnam war--does that mean I should be drafted first for this one?  Their parents started this war.  But that doesn't automatically mean they feel the same way about it.  It doesn't even mean they really understand it.

      Granted, I may have missed it, but I don't really remember either of the Bush twins warmongering all over the country--I remember them supporting their father during his campaign, which is, given their position, entirely to be expected.  Putting his policies on their tab seems not just harsh, but fairly shitty--at least until they prove they're standing right up with him asking the bartender for the check.

      I may have read too much into it, and if I did, it's entirely my bad and I'm sorry.  It just seemed a crappy road to go down, when there are so many more productive ones to deal with just now.

      who controls the 'raqi war? who tells big lies by the score? Bush do! Bush do!

      by br00mhiLdA on Fri Jul 01, 2005 at 12:48:37 AM PDT

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