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  •  Unfortunately, there is a large segment of the (1+ / 0-)
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    public who don't "get it" about any kind of government pension system.  They don't understand that those pension guarantees came in exchange for some other expensive cost to the taxpayers like wages, or insurance coverage.  All they know is that in their own private-sector jobs, pension funds were raided and looted a long time ago and they resent it when they see ANY pension system for government employees--even veterans who risked their lives.  They see nothing wrong with throwing vets into the Wall Street system because that's what happened to them.  

    Ugh.  What those same people don't "get" is that in the private sector, in theory, employers would compete for workers by offering better retirement account (401K and IRA) matches and stuff like that.  That can't happen in the military, obviously.  

    And we have also had multiple generations of soldiers and sailors who are ingrained with the notion that if you just stick it out with a military career you can at least count on a steady retirement.  Those poverty wages and dangerous assignments will be worth it someday, because it always has been.  

    If they really do this and eventually throw the veterans to Wall Street, my fear is that it will take too long for the reaction to happen.  It would be sweet, sweet justice if they had a steep decline in enlistments IMMEDIATELY, but I fear that won't happen.  People have been too conditioned to think that military retirement agreement is just there.  And what will new enlistments do about it anyway?  They can't go across the street and sign up in a different Navy.  

    Good diary, callawar!  Keep on top of this and please come back with updates!        

    "In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle stand like a rock." Attributed to T. Jefferson

    by koosah on Thu Jan 16, 2014 at 06:23:43 AM PST

    •  It's true and I think it's why Congress targets (1+ / 0-)
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      pensions so often. It's horrible that they also cut Federal Civilian Pensions as well but at least they grandfathered those cuts so that the only people affected are going to be new hires. Those people at least have an honest choice to make.

      My husband has already served. We sat down at the 10yr and 15yr point and discussed the pros and cons of staying in. If Congress can just change our pensions whenever they like, why should we trust them to pay pensions at all? That social contract is so important and I actually believe folks on the left get that more than folks on the right but the majority of voices arguing to rescind these cuts come from the right. It is so bizarre.

    •  Cut Cut Cut! (2+ / 0-)
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      Notice now Congress is ready to move forward and ignore vet pleas.  They've loaded the omnibus bill up with pork for the home district.

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