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View Diary: On second thought, pregnant women shouldn’t drink contaminated West Virginia water, CDC says (110 comments)

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  •  How about livestock and vegetable gardens? Game? (24+ / 0-)

    Given the economic straits of many in WV, it seems logical that lots of people keep chickens, rabbits, pigs, cows, etc. for food.  Many must keep gardens, and hunting for food can not be uncommon. Fish in the river?

    What is the state of all those possible sources of ingestion, and possible (harmful) effects on the people there?  So, if the MCGM is not advisable for pregnant women, what about these other food sources?  Should pregnant women, or other parts of the population, avoid eating them? Does the stuff accumulate like heavy metals in fish?  Is it immediately and obviously harmful if levels exceed what the liver and kidneys can process, or does it take prolonged exposure for the effects to be evident? Does anyone know?  Is anyone even asking these questions?

    Sh*t, I'm just a transportation planner, not a public health researcher, but I imagine I could help frame some of the right questions to ask if no one else knows.  It'd be all, y'know, science-y 'n stuff.

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    by tom 47 on Thu Jan 16, 2014 at 09:09:41 AM PST

    •  No one knows (16+ / 0-)

      and it's expensive to pass out all that free water. Plus it makes for terrible pictures on the news. So they call it "safe" till someone realizes that babies exposed in key development states in utero might actually show obvious signs of how dangerous exposure might be. Since anything that happens to people ingesting this stuff won't manifest in an obvious deformity, and they're relatively certain it won't poison someone on the spot, they just call it "safe" & hope for the best.

      This entire situation is infuriating. I can't begin to imagine how literally frightened the people that live there and can't afford bottled water must be.

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      by Siri on Thu Jan 16, 2014 at 09:58:39 AM PST

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    •  I really feel bad for the livstock owners as their (10+ / 0-)

      options for caretaking of their animals is very limited in terms of their feed and watering.  Livestock drink more water when it is cold outside.

      I also extend this to the owners of pets as well as gardeners although there isn't a demand for water seeing as it is winter and most haven't a garden at this point in time.

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      by LamontCranston on Thu Jan 16, 2014 at 10:21:49 AM PST

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    •  Keep an eye out for three-headed infant livestock. (0+ / 0-)

      And changes in animal birth rates.

      (Only half joking.)

      As I recall, a recent PBS special (maybe the one on poisons) indicated that bird eggs in contaminated areas contained up to fifty times the "lethal" human dose quantities of certain toxic chemicals (such as PCBs).

      And think of all the areas where health departments and other authorities discourage human consumption of fish.

      •  Related video from EPA... (0+ / 0-)

        Returning a River to Health

        The damage from toxic spills and dumping can last a very long time --- and are very expensive to mitigate.

        •  You are correct. In fact it is almost impossible (1+ / 0-)
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          to eradicate many toxins such as PCBs, dioxins and heavy metals like mercury and arsenic from soil or large volumes of water (lakes and oceans) because they filter out and sink to the bottom where they accumulate in the sediments. You would have to dredge the entire lake bottom, or ocean bottom to get rid of these toxins, and once they are dredged up, what do you do with the contaminated soil or sediment?  Persistent pesticides and other chemicals, especially petrochemicals are really impossible to get rid of. Once introduced into the environment, they remain forever.

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