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  •  His mother's birth certificate wouldn't do it (3+ / 0-)
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    Grubdnikk, mmacdDE, grover

    An American born mother does not automatically transmit American citizenship to her foreign born offspring. She needs to satisfy other requirements, such as continuous residency within the U.S.

    No, Ted Cruz needs to release his Consular Report of Birth Abroad.

    http://travel.state.gov/...

    Odd that he hasn't released it, eh?

    •  Mother's Birth Certificate is Irrelevant (0+ / 0-)

      It doesn't matter what nationality a persons's parents are.  Only whether or not the person running for the office of the presidency is "natural born".  This is not a statutory requirement.  It is a constitutional requirement.

      Although Congress may grant citizenship to non-natural born persons, that is persons not born within the sovereign territory of the United States, it does not have the power to grant the status eligibility of non-natural born citizens to the office of president.  The Supreme Court in 1879 in Ark vs the United States has already ruled on this very point.  Congress does not have the power to amend the constitution by statute.  In the majority opinion in Ark vs US, the court ruled that to do so requires a constitutional amendment.  A simple statute is insufficient.

      •  Your understanding of Won Kim Ark is wrong (1+ / 0-)
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        elmo

        I've pointed this out in two other comments already: Won Kim Ark is about birth to non-citizen parents inside the US. Your attempt to construe the decision as relating to citizen births outside the US is simply not correct.

        The Constitution's phrasing "natural born" is not otherwise defined. I suppose you could say it means no C-Sections. As far as anyone has figured out, it means "birthright", and Cruz Jr is a birthright citizen given his mother’s citizenship status.

        Various birther sites give other definitions of "natural born", especially two birthright parents, but simply put, there isn't any justification for them.

    •  She satisfies the residence req easily (1+ / 0-)
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      missississy

      Yes, mom's birth certificate isn't enough, but a brief review of her biography suggests she lived in the USA long enough from childhood. Just her education (including college) does it. So unless you believe in a conspiracy to fake her college degree, this is all barking up the wrong tree.

      •  Yes, and it doesn't matter if the consular report (1+ / 0-)
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        Andrew Lazarus

        was filed at the time of his birth.

        Though I am sure Sen. Cruz would prefer that it had been (if it was not).

      •  As Obama satisfied the citizenship requirement (0+ / 0-)

        by virtue of his birth in Hawaii. But he was still hounded until he provided proof by releasing his birth certificate (and even then, some weren't satisfied).

        My point is that Cruz has not released any evidence whatsoever of his American citizenship. He proved he is a Canadian citizen, that's all.

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