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  •  What is "government"? (1+ / 0-)
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    I prefer socialism that fits the dictionary's definition: PUBLIC control of the means of production.  Capitalism is PRIVATE control of the means of production in the hands of a tiny oligarchy.

    "Government" under socialism is you and me.  We decide, democratically.

    What's wrong with allowing those who actually do the work to enjoy the full fruits of their labor?  Under capitalism the whole of the working class must perform alienated labor, and the owning class gets most of the surplus.

    Not all capitalists are greedy and only concerned with maximizing profits.
    Of course not -- capitalists are people too.  They're only concerned with maximizing profits to the extent to which they are efficient capitalists.

    "If you sing a song a day, you will make a better way" -- Earth, Wind, and Fire

    by Cassiodorus on Fri Jan 17, 2014 at 08:35:00 PM PST

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    •  Oh and as for the rich: (1+ / 0-)
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      Egalitare

      "If you sing a song a day, you will make a better way" -- Earth, Wind, and Fire

      by Cassiodorus on Fri Jan 17, 2014 at 08:42:16 PM PST

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    •  The means of production need not be... (0+ / 0-)

      ...in the hands of a tiny minority in a capitalistic system.

      Wall Street capitalism is not what I propose.  I agree it's out of control.  And our democracy is too influenced by money.

      But, is there a socialist country that you propose as an example?

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      by Shockwave on Fri Jan 17, 2014 at 09:02:17 PM PST

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      •  The owning class is always far richer (1+ / 0-)
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        than the workers.

        The means of production need not be... (0+ / 0-)

        ...in the hands of a tiny minority in a capitalistic system.

        Only in theory.  In practice, capital is money which makes more money, and so the possessors of capital, having formed a small, oligopolistic financial elite from the beginning, continue to form one today.

        "If you sing a song a day, you will make a better way" -- Earth, Wind, and Fire

        by Cassiodorus on Fri Jan 17, 2014 at 09:39:33 PM PST

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      •  And as for a country -- (1+ / 0-)
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        how about Cuba without all the authoritarianism?

        "If you sing a song a day, you will make a better way" -- Earth, Wind, and Fire

        by Cassiodorus on Fri Jan 17, 2014 at 10:12:20 PM PST

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