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  •  Of course there is. (2+ / 0-)
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    Tonedevil, zenbassoon

    The state can impose emergency management on the school district.

    The final liability for educating children does not rest with the school district, but with the state.

    The state sets the minimum standards, and parents can hold them to that ... or sue.

    I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
    but I fear we will remain Democrats.

    Who is twigg?

    by twigg on Sat Jan 18, 2014 at 02:15:08 PM PST

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    •  twigg - how much the state owes has already (3+ / 0-)
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      twigg, Pi Li, zenbassoon

      been litigated. I would be pleasantly surprised if the state put more money in the pot, but I think that is doubtful. My guess is that it all gets sorted out in bankruptcy court.

      "let's talk about that"

      by VClib on Sat Jan 18, 2014 at 03:03:54 PM PST

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      •  This may be correct with respect (2+ / 0-)
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        Tonedevil, zenbassoon

        to the claim by the teachers, however that was not the point being addressed.

        The question was ... if the School District goes bankrupt, who will pay for the children of that district to be educated.

        I said that the state is responsible for educating children, and they don't get to shirk that responsibility because they allowed a rogue school district to bankrupt itself.

        The state would have to provide education at least to the minimum standards that they impose on school districts, because it's the law!

        I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
        but I fear we will remain Democrats.

        Who is twigg?

        by twigg on Sat Jan 18, 2014 at 03:34:14 PM PST

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        •  Not correct. (2+ / 0-)
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          zenbassoon, VClib

          Louisiana has a Minimum Foundation Plan, where the state allocates funds to each school district based on number of students based in a block grant to the school district.

          Many school districts add to that from their local revenues so that they can, for example, pay teachers more.

          If Orleans Parish has to pay a huge chunk of money to satisfy this judgment, there's nothing under existing law that means the State sends them any more money because of that.

          •  You are missing the point. (2+ / 0-)
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            zenbassoon, Tonedevil

            Suppose the School District closes its doors.

            What then?

            There are both state and federal laws that demand the state educates the children. They cannot just leave them to fester.

            No one is suggesting that the state has to bail out the district ... that is a separate matter, but the state does have to educate the kids.

            I hope that the quality of debate will improve,
            but I fear we will remain Democrats.

            Who is twigg?

            by twigg on Sat Jan 18, 2014 at 04:03:20 PM PST

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            •  You are missing the point. (3+ / 0-)
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              VClib, zenbassoon, twigg

              What "federal laws" require that the State step in do MORE than send the minimum foundation funds to the District?  

              Under state law, the state satisfies its financial obligation to educate the students of Orleans Parish by sending Minimum Foundation funds to Orleans Parish.  

              Orleans Parish Schools are not going to close their doors if this judgment stands.  The School system will likely declare bankruptcy, stiffing a number of creditors, and work our a plan in bankruptcy where they will, over time, have to divert  a substantial portion of the funds that they were using to educating these children to pay the Judgment.  They will still get the state money every year -- it's just that not all that money will go to educating students any more, and a substantial amount will go to paying off the judgment -- if that's what happens in the Bankruptcy.  

              The Orleans Parish Public School system is not going to get any more money from the state.  If this Judgment gets paid out of the bankruptcy, it's going to come from the money that the Orleans Parish Public School System would have spent on students.  

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