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  •  From WaPo's "Five big takeaways from Obama’s NSA (9+ / 0-)

    Speech", the first is described thusly:

    1) Obama has declared that U.S. spy agencies will no longer hold Americans’ phone records. As a result, the surveillance program that became the biggest Edward Snowden-related controversy will come to an end, at least as it is constructed now. This major shift will take months if not more to accomplish. In the meantime, President Obama is imposing new limits on the government’s ability to access such data. WaPo

    Conservatives seem to believe that the rich will work harder if we give them more, and the poor will work harder if we give them less. E.J. Dionne

    by blueyescryinintherain on Fri Jan 17, 2014 at 09:13:55 AM PST

    •  hmmm, (3+ / 0-)
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      the diary says this:

      On the primary issue that has created so much backlash—bulk collection of phone metadata from Americans—Obama is largely punting, preserving the program but ordering his administration, in consultation with Congress, to figure out how to change how and where the data is stored.
      •  Well, judging from the wording from WaPo, it seems (5+ / 0-)

        that one place it won't be stored is with the US spy agencies.  

        U.S. spy agencies will no longer hold Americans’ phone records.
        This sounds like a little more than nothing to me.

        Conservatives seem to believe that the rich will work harder if we give them more, and the poor will work harder if we give them less. E.J. Dionne

        by blueyescryinintherain on Fri Jan 17, 2014 at 09:32:18 AM PST

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        •  possibly, (1+ / 0-)
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          corvo

          but to me your take is pretty optimistic. President Obama suggesting that Congress "figure out how to change" where the data is stored could easily mean nothing will happen. I don't expect Congress members to get together and accomplish anything meaningful.

        •  Read the directive (4+ / 0-)

          WaPo is playing loose with the facts, probably because their lead reporter Spenser Ackerman, made some predictions this week and hasn't had time to walk back whatever he wrote prior to the actual release.

          There is NOTHING firm or substantial to that end in the directive, but defers the policy and decision to Congress.

          Read the Directive before you get yourself in too deep.

          The WaPo is not the POTUS or Congress.

        •  In other words... (3+ / 0-)
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          DeminNewJ, tardis10, Brown Thrasher

          The U.S. government, as part of "reform", will outsource (with a hefty profit margin) the storage of illegally collected data to a Third Party.

          Damn I'd love to be an AT&T Account Executive for the Public Sector right about now.

          The 1% are Purists: They only support Candidates that Deliver Results They Can Bank On. Don't they know they should compromise? /sarcasm

          by Johnathan Ivan on Fri Jan 17, 2014 at 10:09:30 AM PST

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        •  The NSA facility in Utah (1+ / 0-)
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          can be renamed just like stadiums are! I vote for Jeremy Bentham Memorial Park.

          "George RR Martin is not your bitch" ~~ Neil Gaiman

          by tardis10 on Fri Jan 17, 2014 at 11:17:13 AM PST

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