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  •  I used to find Austen shallow and predictable (3+ / 0-)
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    but now I find that there's more there than I noticed before: subtle humor and very skillful style. But in that diary Austen was more of a jumping off point, to discuss how our culture ignores and undervalues feminine wisdom and sensitivity.

    I'm glad you enjoyed these two diaries. Happy Martin Luther King Day.

    "Every man has a right to utter what he thinks truth" Samuel Johnson

    by Brecht on Mon Jan 20, 2014 at 01:38:06 AM PST

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    •  I don't find her shallow or predictable (2+ / 0-)
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      I am simply not interested in the problems of the class of people that she writes about, male or female. And the "feminine wisdom" that she writes about is upper class "feminine wisdom." Their lifestyle and their problems bore me.  Poor and working class women have their own struggles and their own type of wisdom as shown by the many authors who write about them, like Hurston, for example.

      God spare me the Heart to fight them... I'll fight the Pirates forever. -Mother Jones

      by JayRaye on Mon Jan 20, 2014 at 06:49:44 AM PST

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      •  I hear you. My other Austen diary covered the Pros (2+ / 0-)
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        and Cons of Jane Austen as a writer. I won't ask you to read a third of my diaries, but here is my analysis of what's missing from Austen's writing:

        First, Austen is all about the gentle middle, and leaves out all kinds of wild extremity. She sticks to towns and villages - not London, but not too far away, either. No Scotland, let alone continental Europe or beyond. She pays attention to the middle classes - we see very little of the truly poor or the really rich or powerful. She likes things small and peaceful. When she wrote, England was embroiled in wars on the continent, men were marching off, and coming back covered in glory or death. Yet these earth-shattering events hardly figure in her novels. Socially, geographically, thematically, she sticks to love and society in everyday settings.

        Second, Austen is a very feminine writer. That's a huge word with many implications. All I mean in this case is, she writes about the subjects we now make chick flicks out of, and she avoids the brutal masculine subjects that appealed to Hemingway and Norman Mailer. When it comes to Romance, all the subtleties of relationships, psychology - and what is admirable, or trustworthy, or dangerous in our characters: she gets all that to the nth degree. If you find those intricacies fascinating, you will love Jane Austen. If you want wars, bullfights and murders, you'll have to look elsewhere.

        Even in her psychology, Austen prefers the gentle middle. Dante and Dostoevsky are penetrating in their visions, but they're interested in heroes and lunatics, in angels and demons. They look in the dark, twisted corners of human nature, and they explore the brilliant illumination of heavenly grace. Austen won't go very far up, down, or out of the everyday. There is a coziness to her world: bad things happen, but you don't have to worry about a sympathetic main character getting hacked to pieces. She's no George R. R. Martin.

        "Every man has a right to utter what he thinks truth" Samuel Johnson

        by Brecht on Mon Jan 20, 2014 at 04:59:08 PM PST

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