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  •  LOL! (9+ / 0-)

    OMG, they're getting seriously desperate, aren't they?

    Every time they up the ante and wave this kind of Ian Fleming-wannabe-plotmaking around, I get just a wee bit more sure that Snowden got the goods on either 9/11 or Election 2000. And Rogers and his little security-state enablers are shitting bricks over it.

    I only worry that this "new news venture" that Greenwald, et.al., are off to help get off the ground is simply a ploy to buy time until Snowden's year in Russia is up.

    This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

    by lunachickie on Sun Jan 19, 2014 at 12:31:43 PM PST

    •  curious that they do not recognize that (0+ / 0-)

      OMG, they're getting seriously desperate, aren't they?

      For our fallen solders who come home from Afghanistan to Dover AF mortuary, "God bless the cause of "The Good War" for which they died" - As if any war can be called Good in its 13th year, America's longest war.

      by allenjo on Sun Jan 19, 2014 at 12:55:47 PM PST

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    •  got the goods on either 9/11 or Election 2000 (2+ / 0-)
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      wouldn't it be great if he has?

      For our fallen solders who come home from Afghanistan to Dover AF mortuary, "God bless the cause of "The Good War" for which they died" - As if any war can be called Good in its 13th year, America's longest war.

      by allenjo on Sun Jan 19, 2014 at 01:50:16 PM PST

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      •  Yes. And No. (2+ / 0-)
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        Really. If it's true, it IS deserving of their freakout in some ways. Think about it. This old'un can rather sympathize on a most basic, public-safety level with the dilemma this government seems to be in.

        But they brought this shit on themselves. All of it. And they did it in my name and yours. And they damn well had no business doing it.

        Honestly, if I'm even in the ballpark, I'm just not sure I really wanna know, to tell you the truth. But it would explain a lot of stupid shit, in terms of how they've handled this Snowden thing from the beginning, wouldn't it?

        This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

        by lunachickie on Sun Jan 19, 2014 at 02:14:34 PM PST

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        •  the dilemma this government seems to be in (2+ / 0-)
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          would be because of all of its nefarious doings and attempting to hide them from the public, which is not acceptable in a democratic form of government.

          I question how much of a democratic form of government we still have.

          Yes, I would like to know, we all should, so that we can prevent such things from ever happening again.

          For our fallen solders who come home from Afghanistan to Dover AF mortuary, "God bless the cause of "The Good War" for which they died" - As if any war can be called Good in its 13th year, America's longest war.

          by allenjo on Sun Jan 19, 2014 at 02:25:40 PM PST

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          •  Well, that is where I fall (2+ / 0-)
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            on the general "line of democracy" if you will. Yes, we of course should know. They'd just need to watch how they disseminate info like that. Some people are liable to....not take it very well.

            Could get seriously ugly--that was essentially my overall point. But absolutely,

            so that we can prevent such things from ever happening again.
            agreed...

            This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

            by lunachickie on Sun Jan 19, 2014 at 02:39:54 PM PST

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        •  I would want to know the truth (1+ / 0-)
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          Behind everything the US has done in our name.
          After all, we paid for those activities.
          I would want to know why Gore sat their and ignored all those Senators that got up and pleaded with him to keep fighting.
          Yep, I think I could 'handle the truth'.

    •  Someone in another thread (1+ / 0-)
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      brought up the "dead man's switch" idea.

      Wait a sec... here it is.

      Something happens to Snowden, that stuff comes out.

      "A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence agst. foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home." - James Madison

      by gharlane on Sun Jan 19, 2014 at 02:35:55 PM PST

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      •  Oh, no doubt that exists (1+ / 0-)
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        That it exists is exactly why nothing will happen to Snowden.  But what happens when his year is up in Russia? He's still got to get somewhere else. I can't imagine him wanting to stay and if he tries to go elsewhere, until he gets wherever that is, he's fair game for arrest (even if he's not--the federales will play dirty if they have to).

        This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

        by lunachickie on Sun Jan 19, 2014 at 09:36:53 PM PST

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        •  all true (1+ / 0-)
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          to be honest I don't remember a year time limit but I don't doubt it's there.  Imposed by Moscow?  Of course they can extend it if they want.  And much as ES might want to go elsewhere, he might have no choice but to stay (and be an assassination target, no doubt).   No good choices :(  Sucks going up against the World's Only Superpower, even if it is headed by a (cough) Constitutional Scholar.

          "A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence agst. foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home." - James Madison

          by gharlane on Mon Jan 20, 2014 at 12:43:16 AM PST

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      •  although to be clear (1+ / 0-)
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        if he's arrested, I'm not sure that switch applies. Even if it does, someone has to actually publish this stuff, too.

        This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

        by lunachickie on Sun Jan 19, 2014 at 09:37:44 PM PST

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        •  GG? eom (1+ / 0-)
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          "A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence agst. foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home." - James Madison

          by gharlane on Mon Jan 20, 2014 at 12:41:33 AM PST

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          •  Not the "who" (1+ / 0-)
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            when I say "published", I'm talking about the "how" and the "where".

             Regardless of who writes and sends the info on, the info itself has to show up on a television or a newspaper somewhere. Broadcast. Printed.

            Which is why this "new news venture" is so fascinating to me. Where is it? When does it "open for business"? They've got roughly 6 months before Snowden's year is up. They're gonna do this "new outlet" that fast?

            Head-scratching stuff :(
             

            This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

            by lunachickie on Mon Jan 20, 2014 at 06:11:00 AM PST

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