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  •  Many of these statements aren't mutually exclusive (1+ / 0-)
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    Assume that Dawn Zimmer is telling the truth.  In her account, as I understand it, Lt Gov Kim didn't say that Christie wouldn't give Hoboken the money without favors for the developer.  She evidently said that the two were unfortunately linked and that the one would facilitate the other.  As Dawn Zimmer related it, Christie's name wasn't necessarily used nor was it relayed as Christie's demand.

    Remember the diaries of the weekend discussing David Samson as the eminence grise behind all this.  Samson was Christie's mentor and predecessor as U.S. Attorney.  He encouraged Christie's career.  He has prominent law firm that represents scads of developers, many with dealings with the Port Authority.  Samson helps Christie ascend and become Governor, Christie points him Chairman of the Port Authority Board of Commissioners.  Now he is in a position to influence and profit from loads of PA dealings.  Christie people have to help Samson and his clients out when asked, not necessarily by Christie but by various messengers.   This makes sense of the Hoboken and GW Bridge and some other stories.

    And it can all be true that Hoboken got much less than it asked for, that much money went to individuals not cities, that Hoboken could have gotten more by playing ball, that other cities haven't really gotten a whole lot more and that the demands on all available money for compensation, remedial and preventive work far exceed the funds available.  Just because different things are at least partly true doesn't mean the other things are false.

    And the essential truth, which everyone knows, is that Christie has reveled  in putting people down, had his people videotape the incidents and post them to You Tube, and his people seemed to relish payback.  And New Jersey is corrupt, largely because of the huge amounts of property development money floating around.  That all makes it entirely plausible that Christie's people did these things with his tacit or overt consent.

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    by Mimikatz on Mon Jan 20, 2014 at 02:10:18 PM PST

    •  no, it was clear (1+ / 0-)
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      you won't get the funds unless, and it came from Christie, it's clear.  they are tied.  If not one, then not the other. And it turned out to be true, she got 300,000 that she used to study and plan, but not the 100,000,000 that she needs to build and protect.  

    •  No, Zimmer says it came from Christie (0+ / 0-)

      She said Guadagno told her she was relaying a message from Christie.

      From CNN story:

      "She said that to me -- is that this is a direct message from the Governor," Zimmer said, referring to Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno ...

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