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  •  Diaries or comments claiming Russia helped Snowden (5+ / 0-)

    … will surely draw a warning from admins about promoting a conspiracy theory with no evidence to back it up, right?

    Right?

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    by lotlizard on Tue Jan 21, 2014 at 04:07:55 AM PST

    •  Not if it meets Occam's Razor (0+ / 0-)

      Does Snowden have asylum from Russia? He seems to have the freedom to travel within the country. This is a form of help, no?

      I'll preface this statement by saying that I am someone totally opposed to NSA overreach but attempting to look at this issue objectively. We should all try it some time. This should do away with the Rox and Sux crowd.

      1. We don't know everything that Snowden took
      2. Snowden is a pretty good hacker working for an organization that hacks. There is a chance he could have covered his tracks well enough to keep the NSA constantly guessing. Proof of this:
         A. The NSA cannot get in front of this story. Every release by Greenwald is a bombshell. This tells me that they aren't sure what Snowden has.
      3. Our relationship with Russia has always been a bad one. There is no background for trust from either side.
      4. Should Snowden trust Russia? Considering that they've spent the last 100 spying on us, he probably shouldn't - The Frog and Scorpion come to mind.

      Because of this any statement by Snowden or the NSA will have little proof behind it. That is unless classified documents are released to make the case - but by the nature of the documents being classified they can't be released.

      A catch 22. Snowden and the NSA will be in alternate limbos until all the facts are out - I don't see that ever happening.

       

      •  Should Americans trust the NSA? (1+ / 0-)
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        4. Should Snowden trust Russia?

        Considering that they've spent the last 100 spying on us, he probably shouldn't

        Considering that the NSA is spying on Americans, we "probably" shouldn't.

        For our fallen solders who come home from Afghanistan to Dover AF mortuary, "God bless the cause of "The Good War" for which they died" - As if any war can be called Good in its 13th year, America's longest war.

        by allenjo on Tue Jan 21, 2014 at 08:58:26 AM PST

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      •  Meant "helped" in the sense of the innuendo attack (1+ / 0-)
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        … that he was a Russian spy all along.

        Not "helped" in what I'll call the Arizona sense — where merely giving someone a lift or sharing necessities of life with them can be construed by the authorities as having aided and abetted violators of U.S. immigration law.

        The Dutch kids' chorus Kinderen voor Kinderen wishes all the world's children freedom from hunger, ignorance, and war. ♥ ♥ ♥ Forget Neo — The One is Minori Urakawa

        by lotlizard on Tue Jan 21, 2014 at 09:26:45 AM PST

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