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  •  Nate Silver crunched some numbers (6+ / 0-)

    and the most highly rated college football tv broadcasts in NY were those involving Alabama, as the perennial best team, or Notre Dame.  The Big 10 admitted Rutgers because that got the Big Ten Network on the same tier of cable networks as the ESPNs, it's not a premium channel if there's a local team with x number of miles or something.  But in no way is Rutgers THE team of NYC, and if it becomes that, it's not at the expense of Syracuse, which New Yorkers regard as the team of South Canada.  New Yorkers like the Giants, except the masochistic ones who like the Jets.

    Man, DePaul used to be really good.

    Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

    by Loge on Tue Jan 21, 2014 at 02:37:10 PM PST

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    •  ND? (0+ / 0-)

      ND is the most highly rated in NY?

      Maybe because NBC pushes it's ND games so much.  You can't watch NBC for 10 minutes during college football season without seeing an ad for NBC carrying ND football.

      •  lot of old Catholics n/t (2+ / 0-)
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        Darth Stateworker, mightymouse

        Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

        by Loge on Tue Jan 21, 2014 at 04:38:32 PM PST

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          •  ND is still the only "National" college program (0+ / 0-)

            The only one.  Alabama is good, and wins every year.  Texas makes the most money.  Some of the others are attractive to watch on TV.  But, outside of their own markets and regional fan bases, everybody either hates them, or is indifferent.  Only Notre Dame has "real" fans in every market.  I know, my best friend when I was in college at Penn State, a Pennsylvania native, was a diehard ND fan.  His whole family was.  Not one of them ever went to ND, or even visited the place.

            In truth, there are only three national teams in all of American sports:  Notre Dame, the NY Yankees, and the Dallas Cowboys.  I'm defining national teams as those that have fans, real, diehard, devoted fans, in quantity, in every market in the country.  The Cowboys and ND have been on hard times for a while (and the Yankees were down the entire 1980's), but, as soon as (and if) they ever get good again for a sustained period, their popularity will rocket off the charts.  Their fans seem to be hibernating, now, but start winning, and they just come out of the woodwork.

            That is why ND is the only college team with it's own major network television contract.  It has very little to do with catholics.

    •  Syracuse and NYC (1+ / 0-)
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      There's a reason 'Cuse plays squeakball games at the Garden every year.  They have a lot of NYC-area alums.  It's not as far-fetched as it seems.

      •  well, they gave up the Big East tourney (0+ / 0-)

        at the Garden -- also, they're good at hoops so will have more of a following.  Any basketball fan would want to see them vs St. John's or UConn.

        Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

        by Loge on Wed Jan 22, 2014 at 08:32:40 AM PST

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    •  Nate did (0+ / 0-)

      a study a few years ago and he came away with Rutgers as having the most fans in NYC...around 600k, I believe.

      NYC is not a college football town, but as the largest TV market in the country, even a fraction of them being interested translates to good numbers.

      Now, maybe Nate has updated some of his numbers, it was an interesting survey of all leagues and their fan power.

      It was very relevant as there was a lot of re-configuration of leagues at the time.
      RU and Maryland were clearly plays for East Coast relevance by the Big thinking.
      Otherwise, the Big Ten was land-locked in the rust belt.

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