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  •  he enjoys being cruel. really messed up. e/m (16+ / 0-)

    The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. ~ J.K. Galbraith

    by bluezen on Tue Jan 21, 2014 at 04:52:21 PM PST

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    •  Humiliation and cruelty was GWB's stock-in-trade. (10+ / 0-)

      Pretty much the only thing he has ever shown any interest in, from high-school to international torture capo.

      Vote rape. Vote torture. Vote War Crimes. Vote with the American top 1%.

      by Yellow Canary on Tue Jan 21, 2014 at 05:21:18 PM PST

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      •  no (22+ / 0-)

        no one hated bush more than me, but he wasn't like that, he was a jokester, just not up to the job, and didn't know he wasn't. and isn't going to trip on all the kids he got killed and maimed. He was once asked how history would see him and he said, don't care, I'll be dead. That sums up George.

        Christie is a creep.  He likes to make people sweat, secretly, he has no shame. I mean, Bush has no shame either, for for a different reason.  

        Dawn liked Christie, thought he was doing a good job, he pulled the wool over her eyes. Bush has never pulled wool over anyone's eyes, with Bush what we saw was what we got.  

        •  I hate to say it but you are right. (5+ / 0-)
        •  Well except for Nader and his fools (4+ / 0-)
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        •  anna shane -- oh, george definitely knew he (6+ / 0-)

          wasn't up to the job. he was picked to run for prez b/c of his name, political pedigree, & looks -- in that, he wasn't as creepy-looking as dick cheney.

          i lived in texas when he was first elected gov & it was no secret that he played video games all day long -- & took naps when he wasn't. he was a joke, all right, mainly b/c it came naturally to him, but partly b/c he had a lot of practice.

          The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. ~ J.K. Galbraith

          by bluezen on Tue Jan 21, 2014 at 07:09:06 PM PST

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          •  bet he didn't (8+ / 0-)

            bet he thought he was always getting the last laugh.  You think he did because it was obvious, but he's quite high on himself, sees himself as hale, hearty and well met. You can see him watching himself, approving of himself every time he opens his mouth.   It's nice for him, he won't ever suffer, or if he suffers, won't be from remorse.  

            Christie is a character disorder, he's got larceny and cheating in his DNA, but he sees it as necessary to get the important work of state done, so he's also in his heart innocent, in the misunderstood way, in the way that he's better than other people and should be cut slack.  He also has great self regard, amazing self-love, he can't imagine a man who could best him.  

            Of the two he's the most repulsive, but Bush did the most damage, we're still reeling from his damage.

            •  george is smug, i'll give you that. he may not (3+ / 0-)
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              know much (or, anything at all, for that matter) but he knows he's lucky -- dumb lucky. just look at his life. everything handed to him on a silver platter without ever having to lift a hand or break a sweat. he's an idiot but he's not machiavellian -- that requires brains, which he doesn't have.

              the damage he did -- which was enormous -- was that he played the role of an affable figurehead while dick cheney did the real dirty work.

              The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. ~ J.K. Galbraith

              by bluezen on Wed Jan 22, 2014 at 06:53:29 PM PST

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              •  Completely agree (1+ / 0-)
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                GW was, and still is, a complete idiot. He's a drug abusing alcoholic who was born into power. He may as well have been called a king, because without daddy he never would have made it into any office. He's self-righteous and I don't think he's capable of compassion or empathy, but he didn't choose that. He was raised by terrible parents who chronically forced into him the ideal that he is better than everyone else. If GW would have followed his own heart, I think he would have lived a life surfing in southern California, enjoying every moment of life and even helping other people. On the other hand, Christie is aware of what he is doing. He's a fat bas**rd who chronically tries to cover his obesity with force & control over others. He's a sociopath with no concern for anyone else. He has enough logic to know what he is doing is wrong, but his self-righteousness outweighs any small amount of guilt he may feel. This is a man who is completely aware that he has no compassion or empathy and he is proud of it. He's the Aaron Hernandez of our political system.

        •  A bit of both. (2+ / 0-)
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          Here's Gary Trudeau on Bush in college:

          Trudeau attended Yale University with Bush in the late 1960s and served with him on a dormitory social committee.
          “Even then he had clearly awesome social skills,” Trudeau said. “He could also make you feel extremely uncomfortable ... He was extremely skilled at controlling people and outcomes in that way. Little bits of perfectly placed humiliation.”
          And from a book about the great Wastrel:
          "Bush served as his father's "enforcer" on the campaign trail".
          Weak tea, perhaps, but still tea.  Vengeance is the strongest emotion George W. Bush — an insensitive dolt — has ever felt

          Vote rape. Vote torture. Vote War Crimes. Vote with the American top 1%.

          by Yellow Canary on Wed Jan 22, 2014 at 06:23:38 AM PST

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          •  they were kids (1+ / 0-)
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            bush did stuff like that, he was a 'bad boy,' he called Rove Turd Blossom, but only to another college kid would that have a sting.  Bush was friendly, and he liked practical jokes, but not like the mean Romney ones, he didn't chase guys down and cut their hair, or throw a formal dinner party in the middle of a highway where poor people could drive by.  He was a cheerleader, what is more wussy than that?  He got drunk a lot.  Gary was sensitive and they were both kids.

      •  yellow canary -- i think humiliation & cruelty was (8+ / 0-)

        more dick cheney's stock-in-trade, than gwb's.

        george was an easily-manipulated fool in the mold of st. ronnie -- & that was one reason the party elite picked him to run for prez in the first place. the guy they really wanted in the wh was cheney, but they knew he couldn't win the election b/c -- well, he's dick cheney! as it turns out, bush didn't win, either. the supremes voted him in.

        The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. ~ J.K. Galbraith

        by bluezen on Tue Jan 21, 2014 at 06:56:03 PM PST

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        •  Bush was a useful Pinocchio … (2+ / 0-)
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          … to Dick's sublime Geppetto, but he was still a Pinocchio with an ossified heart and a gift for hurting others.  It made him, of course, especially useful to the passionate power-mongers who fluffed him.

          Vote rape. Vote torture. Vote War Crimes. Vote with the American top 1%.

          by Yellow Canary on Wed Jan 22, 2014 at 06:28:32 AM PST

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          •  he was an ass. that's for sure. he came by it (1+ / 0-)
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            naturally. the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree in that family, & that's why jeb bush would be a disaster in the wh -- just like he was in fla.

            The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness. ~ J.K. Galbraith

            by bluezen on Wed Jan 22, 2014 at 06:39:48 PM PST

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