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  •  I completely agree. (none)
    This is what the Repubs in office constantly do.  They chat up the abortion issue to play to their base, but when it comes right down to it, the Repubs are terrified that the court will overturn Roe...if that happens, voter motiviation shifts incredibly towards the Dems.  I suspect there are a lot of pro-choice voters out there that don't use this issue as a deciding factor since abortion is already legal.  If it becomes illegal, you will see a vast number of those voters coming back & turning on the Repubs.  They can't afford to let that happen.

    Loyalty to the country always. Loyalty to the government when it deserves it. -- Mark Twain

    by GTPinNJ on Fri Jul 01, 2005 at 09:44:26 AM PDT

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    •  Woe is Roe (none)
      Frankly overturning Roe and turning the issue back to the states and making the American people in each state have a real discussion and make some real decisions and vote about abortion might be the best thing that ever happened to this country.

      The facts are that huge numbers of people, though not a majority, feel that abortion (they would say murder) is legal only because the Courts (they would say judicial activists) have made it so.  This is so distorting our political landscape that I believe it is the number one obstacle to rational governance in this country.  People who are frankly appalled by much of what Bushco does just can't get over Roe, it is their litmus test for voting.  If abortion were legal, not because of judicial activism by politically appointed judges, but because a majority of their fellow state citizens have made it so  - they wouldn't keep casting their congressional and presidential votes based on this one issue and the R's know it.  They are terrified of that happening. That's why they are trying to create the "homosexual agenda" as a back up issue, but it's not nearly as potent and they know it.

      OTOH, if Roe is ever overturned, state's rights becomes a whole lot more important.

      I once thought that preserving Roe was very important.  Now I am so concerned that none of us, and certainly not our children, are going to have any kind of a future if Bush continues to aid and abet multinational corporations in committing global ecocide, that Roe pales.  

      What a measure of how bad things have gotten.

      If you want something other than the obvious to happen, you've got to do something other than the obvious...

      by trillian on Fri Jul 01, 2005 at 10:19:57 AM PDT

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      •  Agree to some extent.... (none)
        But some states, Texas among them, have passed state constitutional amendments banning abortion for just such a circumstance.  The fight wouldn't be able to be fought, because conservative state legislatures have the bans already in place and ready to go.

        Good site for legal breakdowns: Center for Reproductive Rights

        "There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life." Frank Zappa

        by cclough on Fri Jul 01, 2005 at 11:47:45 AM PDT

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        •  Fuck 'em..... (4.00)
          .... I'm all about moral capitalism. On the contrary, I believe you'd be surprised by what Texans really believe if this issue is brought to light. Public discourse is a wonderful anti-septic.

          On moral capitalism...... Kansas and Ohio should ban evolution. Alabama and Missippi should ban abortion. All these 'moral' judgements carry harsh economic consequences. Industries that need young, smart professionals won't be able to attract any in these states. Universities will have a tough time recruiting top faculty. New economy jobs that are vital to balance the effect of outsourcing will be lost. These states will see the economic depression they deserve. They can choose to see the light. Or I say - Fuck'em.

          I'm from Ohio and it pains me to see the creationsim debate there. I'm a Clevelander completely ashamed of the rest my home state. We need a wake up call, not a preservation to the staus quo!

    •  I wish I could believe that (none)
      This is what the Repubs in office constantly do.  They chat up the abortion issue to play to their base, but when it comes right down to it, the Repubs are terrified that the court will overturn Roe...if that happens, voter motiviation shifts incredibly towards the Dems.

      Actually, I honestly believe they don't give a shit. They have a very "Well, I've got mine" mentality on abortion - meaning they figure they can always get an abortion somewhere if they need one, but as far as they're concerned their personal tax cuts outweigh anyone else's right to privacy.

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