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  •  Umm what's your point? (none)
    And how does it relate to maximizing on this opportunity to expose the anti-Joe Citizen policies of this administration and Congress so as to provide Democrats ammunition to take back the legislative branch in '06 so if there is a vacancy in '07 we ensure it's a moderate (among other things)?

    DON'T BLAME ME; I VOTED FOR CLARK

    by DWCG on Fri Jul 01, 2005 at 10:48:07 AM PDT

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    •  Because... (none)
      ...because destryoing a persons career so you can score political points to win back some seats is petty, and Un-American.  If the person is judicially unacceptable, untenable to you for some specific reason, fine.  But holding some random judge accountable for CONGRESS'S failures, and destroying that persons career is bankrupt.

      It's not right, and on top of all that, it's probably not a good strategy.

      •  Awww well thats nice (none)
        Lets all book our trips to Never-Neverland, where everything is merit-based, battles are fair, and people do things in goodwill.

        Sorry, I live in the REAL WORLD with REAL PEOPLE who are REALLY AFFECTED by the legislation coming out of Congress - people that lose their jobs, home, children, marriages, healthcare and lives.  So I'm NOT going to apologize for CORRECTLY exposing and exploiting differences between the two parties IN DEFENSE of the working class of this country.

        DON'T BLAME ME; I VOTED FOR CLARK

        by DWCG on Fri Jul 01, 2005 at 11:15:44 AM PDT

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        •  Snark aside (none)
          So I'm NOT going to apologize for CORRECTLY exposing and exploiting differences between the two parties IN DEFENSE of the working class of this country.

          Great.  But if you subvert the system by turning the courts into another version of Congress - which is what is happening by your actions and similiar actions of people around the country - then be bitching when the Democrats are a permanent minority party.



          Judges have to act based on the legal merits of the case.  If not, they aren't good judges.  Congress is doing a piss-poor job, and if you are pissed about that, take it up with them.  Trying to stack the courts with people who you think will carry out "our" agenda is going to destroy the last credible branch of government.  



          The job of the judiciary is not to defend the working class of this country.  Don't forget that.
          •  I'm blaming them both! (none)
            Trying to stack the courts with people who you think will carry out "our" agenda is going to destroy the last credible branch of government.

            You should get on your knees and pray that a great Democrat - Franklin D. Roosevelt stacked the court with people who shared his ideological views.

            DON'T BLAME ME; I VOTED FOR CLARK

            by DWCG on Fri Jul 01, 2005 at 05:46:03 PM PDT

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            •  No, actually (none)
              No, actually, I curse him for that.  And not because I hate the New Deal, but because starting a little bit before him and ever since the court has been far more politicized than it was in the first half of this countries history.



              Popular laws that are unconstitutional should be struck.  Unpopular laws that are constitutional should be upheld.



              The proper way to circumvent a SCOTUS ruling you don't like is to pass an amendment.  The proper was is not to rehash the case again and again and pass various skirting laws attempting to get around the ruling.



              Unfortunately now we are very far from that.
      •  And let's not fool ourselves (none)
        Supreme Court Justice are as much legislators as the Senators who confirm them.

        DON'T BLAME ME; I VOTED FOR CLARK

        by DWCG on Fri Jul 01, 2005 at 11:17:54 AM PDT

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        •  Only because (none)
          Only because you and your ilk make them so.



          Unpopular laws that get to the courts deserve to be upheld.  Even if bad for individuals, or freedom, or you or me or blacks or some other group.  



          Your beef is with Congress.  
          •  LOL - Me and my ilk! (none)
            I didn't start the fight, but I'm damn sure not going to back away from it, and I intend on winning it.  You're fine getting your ass kicked and that's noble.  But take the argument to your closest Ivy League campus political science class.  Meanwhile, I'll be on the street looking at the people affected by these corporate whores on the court and in our legislature.

            And don't pretend like these nine people are just saints with their hands being forced.  No one made them end the recount of presidential ballots.  And don't even get me started with preposterous statements like this:

            Unpopular laws that get to the courts deserve to be upheld.  Even if bad for individuals, or freedom, or you or me or blacks or some other group.

            You sound ridiculous equating Brown v. Board to the ruling that corporations are people.

            DON'T BLAME ME; I VOTED FOR CLARK

            by DWCG on Fri Jul 01, 2005 at 05:42:23 PM PDT

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            •  Wrong. (none)
              You're fine getting your ass kicked and that's noble.

              Who says I am getting my ass kicked?



              Meanwhile, I'll be on the street looking at the people affected by these corporate whores on the court and in our legislature

              Let's see how your "fight every battle like it was the last, whether or not its the appropriate venue for the fight" attitude has gotten your side.  Let's see.. a big pile of nothing.  Loss after loss.  On every issue.  Everytime.  

              You sound ridiculous equating Brown v. Board to the ruling that corporations are people.

              What's silly and assine is pretending the court is there to fix your little problems.  It's not.  That's the job of CONGRESS.  CONGRESS.



              Making the courts a political battle is what got us here in the first place.  

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