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  •  Late indeed (45+ / 0-)

    John Farina, who runs a gallery around the corner from mine, did this ten years ago. You can still see his 2004 letter to the county GOP here:

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/...

    Not only did he follow through on registering as a Democrat, he promptly joined the Stonewall Democrats and has been in leadership positions in the group ever since. I think he is still on their board. And he's always bitching about what the Republicans are up to. After all, when he left, they weren't even half this crazy.

    Ed FitzGerald for governor Of Ohio. Women's lives depend on it. http://www.edfitzgeraldforohio.com/

    by anastasia p on Wed Jan 22, 2014 at 02:55:12 PM PST

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    •  a party full of goobers (37+ / 0-)

      it's sad,

      They drove out the Rockefeller/New England republicans.
      Socially liberal, fiscally conservative country club set
      and replaced them with angry bible thumping
      baptist dropouts.

      And while they could count on them to shout and stomp
      it became an addiction.

      Now your average republican is a poor white southern
      dropout.

      Not exactly a base you can draw for leadership from,
      which is why they had Bush and Palin.

      They can rail about the elites, but, people really don't trust
      them after Bush Jr.

      •  This is good. Not exactly new..... (6+ / 0-)

        Jimmy LaSalvia of GOProud Quits "Dysfunctional" GOP. RNC Said Putin Hate-Laws "Common Sense"

        This formed up as a battle with Michigan's RNC Committeeman Dave Agema.

        Agema's a trog.

        What's new?

        "I hesitate to agree with Nugent...."

        by waterstreet2013 on Wed Jan 22, 2014 at 05:21:21 PM PST

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      •  Actually, Poppie Bush (11+ / 0-)

        and his Poppie started out as those New England conservatives.  Under the Texas sun, I think the gene pool definitely started to dry up...

        It always works out in the end. If it isn't working out, then it isn't the end. So, go ahead and jump. Jump, and the net will appear.

        by The Poet Deploreate on Wed Jan 22, 2014 at 06:34:41 PM PST

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      •  I was a socially liberal Republican (20+ / 0-)

        for many years as were many of my friends..  But that changed as the Republican Party changed.  I HATED (and I know what I said) Birch Bayh who I slapped in 72 when I was pregnant with my youngest.  I grew up in Republican politics, coming in from school and finding a US senator at the house, or the Sec. of Agriculture or a US Representative at my grandparents' house.  Both parties were civil to each other in the 40's and 50's; kids of parents on both sides actually dated.  I wasn't 'country club set' although I could have been.  I taught school, farmed, and then things changed.  Civil rights, Vietnam, and I started asking 'what the hell is going on' in this country.  I wound up as a single mom with 5 kids and a low paying job (good Christian community didn't want a divorced woman teaching their little dears..but a divorced husband didn't have trouble getting a job).  I lived at the edge of the projects, my kids grew up for 8 years under a Federal Court Ordered Desegreation battle in Indy.  I had one of the first 4-H inner city clubs in the nation...and I was voting for Dick Lugar and Democrats..who spoke up and spoke out.  Arrived in Texas, registered to vote when I was eligible, (no party affiliation is done), and voted for who I felt was the best.. Before I left Texas, I was voting almost straight Democrat...and Clayton Williams was the final straw...I pulled a straight Democratic ticket that year.  Now, I am a registered Democrat, was in TN, and am in FL....  I have children who are Vietnamese (foster), grandchildren who are Buddhist, and US citizens as are their parents, nephews who are Muslim (their dad was a grad of West Point), and I now wonder what is going to happen in this country that once I was pretty proud of...

        •  Unfortunately Granny... (0+ / 0-)

          we are already 2 generations away from what used to be a free and democratic America. 50 years of the corporate induced consumer culture and the debt that created which has given the banks unlimited power without ever being punished, no matter how destructive or crooked they have become.

          Our government has been bought by the highest bidders and we were strategically set up and programmed to be willing slaves to this disastrous system... and look where we are now. The privately owned FED and privatization are killing the country and US quite happily without a hint of remorse, why? Because all of the money has flowed out of our pockets into theirs over the last half century.

          While this article has been about the present illusion of what the Republicans have become, frankly, most of the Democrats have jumped onto the same gravy train. It's time to pin your hopes for a more civil society on other parties who actually care about you, our future as a country and the health of the planet!

          http://www.youtube.com/...

          It's time to take the country back for everyone.

          Finché c'è vita, c'è speranza

          by gininitaly on Thu Jan 23, 2014 at 09:33:45 PM PST

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      •  What is amazing is that they still fool the poor. (12+ / 0-)

        Why the "poor white trash" accepts GOP dogma, other than the obvious appeal of their bigotry, is a mystery.  The party doesn't support the poor or the middle classes, which has been pointed out countless times.  They pay lip service to supporting "small business", but their definition of "small business" does not match the "Joe the plumber" scenario of a self-employed person with an employee or two - they're talking about smaller big businesses.  If the electorate ever becomes interested enough to see past the rhetoric and look at voting records, the GOP will die a quick death.

        •  Education of the poor is the answer. (9+ / 0-)

          Ignorance is the problem.

          As the old Baptist song goes, "Deep and Wide, Deep and Wide"

          There's an ignorance growing deep and wide.

          We must stem that tide of ignorance. It's our only hope, and in fact the only hope for the Republican Party.

          Instead of taking up that burden and working on it, the leaders deny it and pretend they're as ignorant as their voters.

          I wish their demise full speed.  Education of the poor and the ignorant in the south would do a world of good toward making them at least stay at home on election day, if not switching their votes to more ethical people (would that there were more of them to choose from).

          •  More Ethical? (0+ / 0-)

            I hesitate to point out that the biggest problem the DEMs have is their ethics, which prevent them from calling out the GOP/TP for the liars that they are.

            The GOP is full of people who espouse the Big Lie, use scare tactics and misdirection to fool people into voting for them, while the Democrats rarely even tell the voters what the Republiscams are doing.

            Don't believe it?  I offer:  Swift Boat!
            John Kerry was a real live, highly decorated Viet Nam Vet, yet the GOP used lies and worse, to knock him right out of the race.  

            Al Gore had a presidency stolen from him, because he only asked for a recount of some of Florida's votes, not ALL of Florida's votes.

            I had a professor who often told his classes, "... for President, the US gets what they deserve!"  That Prof meant that until the entire country wakes up from being sheeple, we're gonna continue to get shit-for-brains like George Dubya Bush.

            We had Bill Clinton, who got rid of a huge deficit and left a surplus, followed by "W" who left a deficit, followed by Obama, who struggles to make it clear that all the financial crap was inherited from Bush.

            And the GOP keeps blaming it on the "tax and spend" Democrats.

            Okay ... I'll take my soapbox and go now ...

            Sometimes, you need a sensa uma!

            by HashHoward on Fri Jan 24, 2014 at 12:48:43 PM PST

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        •  "Small business" is defined ... (0+ / 0-)

          ... by the number of employees, NOT by the company's assets.  Thus Bain Capital, which has billions in assets, is a small company, as Bain itself has fewer than 100 employees (even though Bain OWNS companies that employ hundreds of thousands, they are not, officially, employees of Bain).

          By this definition, Berkshire-Hathaway (Warren Buffet's firm) is also a small business.  Y'see how this works ... definitely NOT in our favor.

          OF COURSE the New Right is wrong - but that doesn't make WRONG the new RIGHT!

          by mstaggerlee on Fri Jan 24, 2014 at 06:50:52 AM PST

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        •  another take (0+ / 0-)

          I have a brother who never finished high school, can't keep a regular job, whose wife owes over 100000 grand in student loans and whose kids are on the state health insurance system. They have no credit and live paycheck to paycheck.

          And he is Republican because someday, dammit, he will be one of the 1% and he needs to protect those future interests now.

          Somehow he honestly sees himself aligned with the very rich.

        •  It's a politics of identity (0+ / 0-)

          . . . rather than a politics of delivering the goods. Remember, in the U.S. & especially in the South, race trumps class. It has always been thus.

          Truth is - the Democrats play this game too. It's just that the Republicans are so much better at it - more money, greater media power, much more zeal. The problem for the Republicans is that they've reached the point of diminishing returns with their strategy & can't move on any of the issues that might broaden their appeal beyond their white, rural, Southern, religious-conservative base. And though the long-term demographic trends are certainly more favorable for our side, the problem for the Democrats remains their utter fecklessness & inability to deliver on what they claim to stand for, which ties directly to their inability to mobilize their voter base in non-presidential election years. I mean, President Obama can talk about income inequality all he wants, but we all know nothing is going to get done about it. And in the next elections, struggling white working people will still mostly vote Republican.

      •  Self-deception... (3+ / 0-)

        Sorry, but most of the leadership of both the Retardicans and the Loonicrats are wealthy elitists who never earned anything. While I am glad that LaSalvia has done what he did, it is very delusional to pretend that this is not happening with the "rank and file" of the Democratic party.

        •  Okay, I'll take the bait. (1+ / 0-)
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          There is not one Democrat of whom I'm aware who has quit the party because of inadequate support for LGBT rights.

          While I might concede that the issue of same-sex marriage, per se, seems quite small-bore next to the great challenges of income inequality, unchecked corporate power, reining in the surveillance state, mitigating environmental degradation, addressing climate change, etc., the fact is that on this issue the Democrats have delivered (however belatedly or timidly critics might deem it to have been). And on the larger file of LGBT rights in general, there's just no way to plausibly make false equivalence between the Democrats & the Republicans.

      •  Yeah, but the GOP (2+ / 0-)
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        isn't in favor of letting families pull the plug on patients who are brain dead.

        Being attentive to the needs of others might not be the point of life, but it is the work of life. It can be ... almost impossibly difficult. But it is not something we give. It is what we get in exchange for having to die. - Jonathan Safran Foer

        by ramara on Thu Jan 23, 2014 at 04:57:52 PM PST

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      •  The GOP uses the goobers. (0+ / 0-)

        The party has no one but itself to blame.

        Yes, there are bigots out there. But today's GOP fans that bigotry, turning it from an ugly little secret to a way to win elections. The GOP has encouraged bigotry, applauded bigotry, done their best to legalize bigotry.

        It's a symbiotic relation. The GOP tells the "base" what they want to hear. The GOP re-inforces the bigotry and legitimizes it by presenting it as a matter of God's will, "tradition" or state's rights. The GOP lies, lies and lies, with the skill of the best propagandists the Koch's can buy, lies that just skirt the edge of blatant bigotry...and the "base" listens. Meanwhile, the heads of TP organizations make their own backroom deals with the GOP.

        It's a classic political ploy. Drum up fear and hatred of "those people"...whether blacks in South Africa, women in Pakistan, Jews in 1930s Germany....then ride that fear to political power.

        The fanatics don't write the laws....but thrilled to find "real Christians" and "real Americans" on the ballot, they throw their support to those candidates who tell them what they want to hear.  No matter how ugly, no matter how wrong, no matter how big a lie.  

        Freedom has two enemies: Those who want to control everyone around them...and those who feel no need to control themselves.

        by Sirenus on Sun Jan 26, 2014 at 06:37:14 AM PST

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    •  when he left, they weren't even half this crazy (23+ / 0-)

      Oh, I beg your pardon.  Remember the John Birch Society?

      They were always crazy.  They've simply run out of shame and anybody to remind them of what shame consists of.

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