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  •  It costs money to find them (18+ / 0-)

    Which is why the National Journal asks today, What if more colleges were like Amherst?:

    Amherst's experience shows that recruiting students from all walks of life is, in and of itself, expensive. To meet its diversity commitments, Amherst has expanded its admissions staff, introduced a scholarship fund for veterans, set money aside to support community-college transfers, and essentially given the admissions office an unlimited budget to fly in prospective low-income students for campus visits....

    Independent college rankings also don't reward colleges for socioeconomic diversity. "What I will say, really frankly, is U.S. News is the enemy of diversity," said Thomas Parker, dean of admission and financial aid at Amherst College. Institutions can easily manipulate factors like share of accepted students who enroll and average SAT score, often at the expense of low income applicants.

    One way to boost key U.S. News and World Report metrics is to recruit students through early-decision programs, which bind students to attending. "If you look at the early-decision program—that's really a program for affluent kids. That's not a program for first-generation, low-income kids," Parker said. First-generation students may have no idea that college applications can be due as early as October of their senior year.

    •  Yale ought to be able to find money (5+ / 0-)

      They ought to do outreach into the high schools.  That's how a former co-worker of mine got out of a gang infested Chicago school where no one went to college.  She wouldn't have even applied, no one in her family had ever gone to college,  if some corporation hadn't sent in a mentor who was too young and stupid to know she couldn't go to college so he helped get ready to go.  

      They should reach out to alumni and partner with them.  Get them to fund mentor programs around the country.  Sheesh, they might even get some to go to Harvard.

      •  Yale DOES outreach. (4+ / 0-)
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        Yale DOES go to high schools to talk to kids about applying. Alumni do interviews of prospective applicants. Alumni are incredibly active in the community.

        Ho'oponopono. To make things right; restore harmony; heal.

        by earicicle on Wed Jan 22, 2014 at 02:23:15 PM PST

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        •  The alumni are for people who applied (3+ / 0-)
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          You need to get more people to apply. Here's more on what Amherst is doing:

          Recruiting and graduating larger numbers of Native American students. Already a nationally recognized leader in attracting and retaining low-income and disadvantaged students through need-blind admission, full-need financial aid and no-loan financial aid packaging, the college has pledged more resources to finding, enrolling and supporting Native American students by partnering with College Horizons, a nonprofit dedicated to increasing the number of Native American, Alaska Native and Native Hawaiian students succeeding in college. The college will host a College Horizons summer program that will match participating students with college admissions officers, college counselors, essay specialists and other educators in a six-day college admissions workshop focused on understanding the college admissions/application process. What’s more, the college will deploy its student “Telementors” to assist in these efforts; these young people, themselves students from diverse backgrounds who have been extensively trained in admissions and financial aid application procedures, guide assigned high school students through the college search, application and choice process of whichever institution they choose to attend.

          Doing more to help create a pipeline to college for low-income and disadvantaged students in the Springfield, Holyoke, Northampton and Amherst region. Leveraging the existing relationships, community-organizing skills and strong reputation of the college’s Center for Community Engagement, Amherst will convene community and educational leaders to consider how to increase the number of low-income and disadvantaged middle- and high school students who apply, are admitted and attend college—whether Amherst or other schools. The college will help to provide the resources to bring together local schools, colleges and social service agencies, as well as representatives from the private sector and local government to make this initiative possible.

          "Of the students who transferred to Amherst since 2007, 65 percent came from community colleges. Of those from community colleges, 85 percent are low-income students."
          •  asdf... (1+ / 0-)
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            My nephew went through the minority, low-income recruitment process at several colleges mentioned in this diary, including Amherst. So I have very direct personal knowledge of how each of these programs work, and their comparative merits, or lack thereof. This forum is too public for me to comment on specifics. But let's just say this: Amherst's program sure sounds lovely, in writing. And my nephew sure learned a lot by attending these programs, many of which are very well structured and very helpful to students in making college decisions. Some, not so much.

            Yale's current outreach efforts are getting a very raw deal in this diary. My nephew was also recruited by Yale. Which he never would have considered doing if a Yale admissions officer hadn't first visited his community, spoken with him personally, and initiated the communication that ultimately led to a structured, on-campus program visit. 100% paid for, even though he ultimately decided not to attend.

            Ho'oponopono. To make things right; restore harmony; heal.

            by earicicle on Wed Jan 22, 2014 at 08:51:53 PM PST

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          •  this year, it seems, (0+ / 0-)

            the thing colleges are doing to boost the number of applicants is waiving admission fees. The more people who apply, the more the school can appear to be selective.

            "Labor was the first price, the original purchase - money that was paid for all things" -- Adam Smith

            by HugoDog on Wed Jan 22, 2014 at 09:09:47 PM PST

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        •  I'm suggesting more intensive mentorship (1+ / 0-)
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          programs where you are recruiting mentors to spend significant one on one time with a promising student.

        •  Which communities? The point is that (0+ / 0-)

          they need to be going into the communities where these students are likely to be, not the communities from which they're already getting their wealthy applicants.

    •  Amherst's President Anthony Marx (0+ / 0-)

      (no, really, an actual Marx implementing actual policies on income inequality) is featured in the YAM article.

      Ceterem censeo, gerrymandra delenda est

      by Mokurai on Wed Jan 22, 2014 at 11:45:14 PM PST

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