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    •  Yes (30+ / 0-)

      People like this think that they are going to be the next billionaire, so keep the taxes low.  They play the lottery hoping to one day win.

      Great clip.

      •  People like this don't think at all. (2+ / 0-)
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      •  And I am not sure that I think it is (12+ / 0-)

        that these people believe they might be the next rich person who will be screwed.  They just have been fed and now regurgitate the cunning bile of the right wing.  FEAR of those "different", immigrants, gays, liberals.  ANGER at their own place in life.  BLAME someone other than themselves for said place in life... ie, the "Different" above.  RATIONALIZATION for their own failings being the ultimate fault of "the different" thus the "libtards."

        Add to that the most prescient and powerful thing that Ronald Reagan ever did, gutting the Fairness Doctrine from the FCC and the airwaves were suddenly filled with lies and obfuscations and invitations to give in to the worst aspects of their human nature.  Not only give in to them, but applaud them and be proud of them.

        The result is the miasma we have today.   And for the life of me, I do not know how to combat it.  Facts and Attack maybe the only way we have at this point in the war.

        •  I have family in Texas, (2+ / 0-)
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          gee1, thanatokephaloides

          not rich but they swallow the GOP lies and rubbish hook line and sinker. They believe the crap they are fed and I am not popular for seeing things differently. It must be the everything is bigger, better and OK in that state mentality. It reminds me of the TV show, "The Dukes Of Hazard"
           

        •  Progressive combat (7+ / 0-)

          "I do not know how to combat it"

          Actually...Mike's approach is the way Republicans have been fighting the last 30 years. Except, Mike also simply put a mirror up to John...something progressives also haven't done in 30 years.

          There's NOTHING the right-wing can say that progressives can't argue back using real facts and then LABEL the real culprit and ATTACK them.

          But...when the voter on election day who isn't paying attention can't make up his mind...often he will say, "I didn't know what to do so I went with "smaller government, lower taxes". I've heard this too many times.

          The right-wing propaganda machine is winning in that area as many uninformed Americans think they are "conservative" (until the facts come out on the issues). Until this day, the Republican Party wins the polls and surveys that ask, “who is better for the economy” (EVEN AFTER THE PAST 30 YEARS OF TRICKLE-DOWN FAILURE AND THE LAST GREAT RECESSION AND BANK COLLAPSE).

          The true IMPETUS behind the desire to implement "smaller government, lower taxes" is ECONOMIC...and progressives FINALLY need to answer with their own ECONOMIC PLATFORM (also that can be stated CONCISELY to be understood AND repeated).

          The answer to this is easier than most progressives know. The “Single Tax” is the best combination of political expedience and easy to understand theory. In fact...the economic platform of the Progressive Party years ago WAS the “Single Tax". In a nutshell, it states that there are three kinds of people in society, those who own wealth, those who create wealth and of course, the many who do both. And only those who own should be paying taxes to cover all government revenue, but those who create goods and services should never pay taxes on that wealth creation.

          And as the founders set up the nation…there was never an income tax (until 1913). The founders basically (and rightly) said, “If you own the community’s means to produce wealth (the land, assets) …then YOU should be paying the taxes. Not some taxes…ALL of them”. If four people in a community own all the land at 25% each then they should each be paying 25% of all the taxes for that community.

          Outside of excise and import taxes…this was usually how revenue was raised in America…and caused America to become an economic powerhouse by 1860. In 1913, the elite in this country somehow bamboozled Congress into allowing an income tax on ALL earners regardless who CONTROLLED or OWNED the wealth producing assets.

          Long story short. Tax assets, NOT INCOME. Imagine the progressive movement calling to end the income tax. Conservatives would be divided for a decade. This is the long-term strategy to steal the economic mantle from Republicans and seal their fate, as America is already sick of their social agenda.

          •  Worried About Presidents Obama's Role... (1+ / 0-)
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            thanatokephaloides

            ...in relation to the "Affordable Care Act" and the "Trans Pacific Partnership".

            I feel uncomfortable, with what seems like, his being too involved with the private insurance industry. (Yes. I am biased against the insurance industry; guilty as charged) I am a "Single Payer" supporter.

            And i feel really concerned with his reported role in pushing through the agreements of the "secret" TPP talks. This doesn't seem to be in keeping with his speech goals to We The People. He talks the talk, but "stumbles" in the walk. I really don't like decisions, that might effect me, being made behind closed doors. Especially, when I believe that there are no True representatives, (Trustworthy Middle and Worker Class Individuals) of We The People there.

            I would appreciate any and all other comments about these matters.

            The above being said and inquired about, I feel very much in agreement with "toncuz"'s comments regarding taxation. But, I do wonder about the "owners" finding ways to pay their taxes out of Our pockets? What's to stop them from raising prices to cover their tax obligations?

            •  President Obama (0+ / 0-)
              I feel uncomfortable, with what seems like, his being too involved with the private insurance industry. (Yes. I am biased against the insurance industry; guilty as charged) I am a "Single Payer" supporter.
              Likewise, I am a "Single Public Payer, No Opt Out" supporter. In other words, I support there being only one source for healthcare providers to get their money; that source to be a tax-financed government agency; and that agency's payments to be the only money paid for healthcare in this country.  (You know, like it is in civilized countries.)
              This doesn't seem to be in keeping with his speech goals to We The People. He talks the talk, but "stumbles" in the walk.
              More like falls flat on his F'ing face. The foundational fact here is this: when single payer healthcare is what we needed, and it was in his reach to obtain it, Barack Obama sold us out to the private health insurance industry's bosses. America's neo-fascists (R) saw the dissatisfaction that created and took advantage of it to take over the House in 2010.

              Now we may as well have no President at all. His other major promises, courtesy of our NON-Representatives in the House, are all stone cold dead. Guantanamo's prisons are still open, and almost everyone now imprisoned there will still be right there on the day Mr. Obama hands the Presidency over to his successor. You can take that to the bank! On that same day, there will still be hundreds to thousands of Americans still fighting in Afghanistan as "advisors" despite Mr. Obama's promise to have us completely disentangled from the millennia-old Afghan quagmire during his term on office.

              Especially, when I believe that there are no True representatives, (Trustworthy Middle and Worker Class Individuals) of We The People there.
              "I am a common working stiff, as you can plainly see
              No RICH LAWYER can represent me!"
              -- thanatokephaloides

              Anarchism is anti-capitalist, and advocates egalitarianism, mutual aid, and reciprocity, and goes back centuries. -- DailyKos User ZhenRen

              by thanatokephaloides on Tue Jan 28, 2014 at 12:35:55 PM PST

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            •  "The Single Tax" (0+ / 0-)

              The owners can raise prices all they want...but the marketplace would beat them down as it would be a real competitive environment because asset bubbles COULD NOT exist when asset holders are being taxed EXCLUSIVELY to raise all government revenue!!

              In other words...we will never have the real capitalism the founders set up initially...just right-wing central planning ...until we have an asset tax like the land taxes the founders knew was correct.

      •  Next Billionaire (1+ / 0-)
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        thanatokephaloides

        That's a great point that helps to explain why so many poor and middle-classers have been so willing to vote against their own interests.

      •  John Steinbeck got it right when he said (4+ / 0-)

        “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”.

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