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  •  I'm a registered Independent... (5+ / 0-)

    ...but I would sooner cut off my hand than vote for Rand Paul for ANY reason.  That being said, there are going to be rare times when, on certain issues, he and I are going to agree.  Doesn't mean he'll ever get my vote.  

    Just feel that has to be explicitly stated these days.

    That being said, however, I will NOT vote for any Dem candidate for any federal office who doesn't come close to satisfying my concerns on this issue.  I'll write someone in before I ever cast a vote for ANYONE who thinks these programs are just fine as-is.

    all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

    by 4kedtongue on Fri Jan 24, 2014 at 04:39:08 PM PST

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    •  I am NOT an independent because (6+ / 0-)

      what the fuck does that mean anyway.

      Not trying to discount you or your choice, but my choice of remaining a Democrat is basically a protest.  They can't run me out of the party.  The creeps who descend upon this blog the minute that there is a negative response from Democratic posters here to the Democratic Party's and Obama's dumbest policy announcements and set about hurling insults and offering walking papers will not beat me out of the party.  They will not eliminate me from the public discourse with their lame and extremely stupid insults.  All they are is a bunch of bullies - and most of them aren't remotely bright or politically shrewd people.  The 2010 election proved that out, imo.

      In any case, I think that our political system regardless of party is rife with a high percentage of dumb asses at this point in history.  Changing that is what everyone who is relatively sane should be trying to do right about now.

      •  I've been an Independent... (2+ / 0-)
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        ...since 1995 (Gingrich - Clinton Welfare Reform).  Never given a good reason to switch back since then.

        :)

        all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

        by 4kedtongue on Fri Jan 24, 2014 at 05:11:44 PM PST

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      •  damn right (3+ / 0-)
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        well said.

        You WANT me on that server! You NEED me on that server!

        by nota bene on Fri Jan 24, 2014 at 05:33:40 PM PST

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      •  It means (1+ / 0-)
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        you're free to choose anyone you want.

        You know, as opposed to being loyal to a Party who isn't the least goddamn loyal to you except when it suits them.

        This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

        by lunachickie on Sat Jan 25, 2014 at 09:40:24 AM PST

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        •  I am not a big believer in the individual. (0+ / 0-)

          I have more faith in the collective.

          I believe in political parties.

          Of course I am a democrat (with a little "d") and that world view is based on ideals like government for, by and of the people as well as ideals about cooperation, tolerance and the common good being the foundation of a healthy society's operating principles.

          Without political parties and a shared vision that is derived from many and not just one, societies tend toward selecting leaders based on "character" and other incredibly misleading and/or subjective metrics.

          While Bernie Sanders is one of my favorites on the Hill, I am disconcerted by his self identification as an "Independent" Senator.  He is a Social Democrat and that is a political philosophy that is very different from Ron Paul who also self-ID's as an "Independent".  When I say, "what the hell does that mean?" that is what I am talking about.  A Social Democrat and a Libertarian identifying by the same term, but they share little in common in terms of political philosophy.  

          If everyone who voted in America went to the next election and only voted for "Independent" candidates, it is near impossible to tell what the hell kind of political leadership we'd really end up with because the term is meaningless by political standards.  All it really means is that neither of the big party's fit the person for whatever reason - but those reasons are all over the place in the political spectrum.

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