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  •  it's much worse then the TM Case (3+ / 0-)

    In the TM case, the shooting occurred in the dark,
    it was a close quarters fight, GZ raised the
    self defense argument and won it reasonably.

    as bad as the TM case smelled, it had a basis for
    reasonable self defense.

    Heres a daylight event, 2 men on their own property,
    no visible weapons, no underlying crimes, the shooter
    is clearly in a highly defended location and engages
    at 50 feet or more.

    There's no trespass, no felonys in progress, no threats to others, no self defense.  All i can see is "Criminal Insanity".

    •  It was murder, IMO. (8+ / 0-)

      Even if they had been breaking into his precious shed and carting away everything in it, that is no justification for shooting them. Much less shooting to kill. The shooter is a lousy cowardly murderer. Good thing I'm not on his jury.

      "Let's stay together"--Rev. Al Green and President Obama

      by collardgreens on Tue Feb 04, 2014 at 05:54:27 PM PST

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      •  some states allow deadly force to protect property (0+ / 0-)

        theft of cattle, cars, catching burglars,

        but in this case, they guy doesn't have that as even
        a factor.

        I have to say this reads as Murder 2 or murder 3

        Either way, the shooter doesn't have much of a defense.

        I'd guess his only real defense is if he was on some
        drug that was dramatically affecting his reason, but,
        then he is likely to spend time in the state asylum.

    •  Hate Crime (1+ / 0-)
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      If this cold-blooded murderer isn't charged with a hate crime as well, I'll be more than ready to protest in the streets.

      Is fheàrr fheuchainn na bhith san dùil

      by bull8807 on Wed Feb 05, 2014 at 08:55:08 AM PST

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    •  GZ is a menace free to kill again & a white (1+ / 0-)
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      Supremacist hero.

      There is NO reason that TM should be dead other than an evil man killed him & evil in America is winning.

      nosotros no somos estúpidos

      by a2nite on Wed Feb 05, 2014 at 10:28:17 AM PST

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      •  However, there's a silver lining ... (0+ / 0-)

        Anyone who's armed and gets into even the slightest argument with him, knowing who is, probably has greater justification to kill him in self-defense, due to his history.

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