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  •  brain death IS death (18+ / 0-)

    Brain dead IS dead in the US, except in New Jersey (where you astonishingly can get a religious exemption).

    No reason to put "merely" in front of brain dead or to put it in a sentence that seems to compare it to a vegetative state.

    Her time of death had nothing to do with the time of removal of ventilator, you are correct.

    You seem to be confusing brain death with forms of severe brain damage.

    For no brain dead person is it true that "removing the life support would just mean that she would expire when malnutrition and dehydration occur but in this case". Never. None.

    Brain death requires failing an apnea test. Someone who breathes when taken off of a ventilator isn't brain dead.

    The plural of anecdote is not data.

    by Skipbidder on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 04:57:43 PM PST

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    •  I wondred about that (2+ / 0-)
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      The parents of the poor girl who died after a tonsillectomy wanted a court order to force the hospital to insert a feeding tube, which I have read will not forestall the inevitable physical decay that continues to progress.

      So what happens to the fluids and nutrients they are apparently now pumping into their dead daughter? Can the body do anything with it, and if so, how, if the brain is dead? Is there some part of the brain that continues to control autonomic function?

      I know the definiton of brain death involves whether someone tries to draw a breath when disconnected from life support. People in vegetative states do try to breathe, which is an indication of brain function. But if you do not have enough autonomic function to try to breathe, how can your body do anything with food or fluids?

      **Electing Republicans to the government is like hiring pyromaniacs as firemen. They all just want to see everything burn to the ground.**

      by CatM on Mon Jan 27, 2014 at 05:39:09 PM PST

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      •  It is entirely artificial (2+ / 0-)
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        The medical equipment is forcing it all through, as if one is a machine. The brain ceases to preserve autonomic nervous system functions, but the machines do all of the mechanical work. The extent to which the body can do anything with fluids and nutrients seems to be how rigorous the medical intervention is, but I think it is unknown just how long such conditions could be extended because we do not have many cases in which there is an effort to keep a whole-brain death person alive for an extended period of time. Hence, the feeling amongst many people that this was an attempt at a barbaric medical experiment. Why keep a person alive who could never breathe on their own? To birth a baby is the answer of these freaks, apparently.

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