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  •  What I am truly afraid of (2+ / 0-)
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    is the fact that the GOP may have launched the silent bomb:  introducing wedge issues to divide the Democratic party (as well as the rest of the country) so they can keep a majority in the House and gain supremacy in the Senate.

    Impeachment is only saber rattling when their true malfeasance is committed over the fact that America has not gotten over its "race problem" and their initial mistrust of Mr. Obama.

     The RW will use that single fact to get people to be even more suspicious of Mr. Obama than they need be.

    Then while the pitchforks and torches fill the streets to undermine the POTUS' leadership, the GOP will make all sorts of policies and law to hurt this country while the Dems tear each other apart. Furthermore, the national conversation is controlled by the RW while the fighting continues.

    As long as we fight each other, they win. We've got to watch for their red herrings like never before.

    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin

    by politicalceci on Tue Jan 28, 2014 at 04:28:40 PM PST

    •  What are these Democratic wedge issues? (5+ / 0-)
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      •  For example, (0+ / 0-)

        Snowden, for one. That is the most obvious. The fighting is terrible.

        "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin

        by politicalceci on Tue Jan 28, 2014 at 05:53:02 PM PST

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        •  No fighting over substance! (0+ / 0-)

          Instead, clap louder.

          Government and laws are the agreement we all make to secure everyone's freedom.

          by Simplify on Tue Jan 28, 2014 at 07:07:08 PM PST

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          •  Only for the people who are bullied and (0+ / 0-)

            insulted into a position without the freedom to express their position calmly. That is what happens when a faction tries to strong-arm another group  into agreeing into something without hearing what the latter is saying.

            "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin

            by politicalceci on Tue Jan 28, 2014 at 07:24:26 PM PST

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        •  Do you REALLY think that (1+ / 0-)
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          Republicans can use Snowden to pick up house seats?  As far as I can see, the Rand Paul type of Republican that might conceivably be pro-Snowden are only viable contenders in areas that are already blood red.  I don't see how that plays in a general.

          •  Maybe or maybe not. (1+ / 0-)
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            This is a complex topic that needs more time and discussion, but here's what I can say now about this matter:

            The entire furor about Snowden is an example of a larger problem that affects the Big Tent politics in our party: one issue keeping us entrenched and angry at each other while the GOP moves on to pass things that hurt this country.

            That is the thing I am concerned about.  Instead of pulling together and fighting GOP policy, the left wing is going to lose ground and more seats fighting over issues that aren't quickly solved in one day.

            That is what I meant.  We need to look at the bigger picture--the 2014 election.  If we don't, we will lose what little progress that we have now.

            "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin

            by politicalceci on Tue Jan 28, 2014 at 09:04:42 PM PST

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    •  If only the GOP was silent (6+ / 0-)

      Impeachment is not a wedge issue. Abortion is/was a wedge issue. However, I believe it is becoming less so because some on the right are waking up to what can only be called "The Full Picture." Doesn't mean they are liberals but it does mean they care about the direction the country is going and don't like the money or the Koch brothers or the income inequality or the wage theft going on. AND they've woken up to the fact that by being a one-issue voter they are allowing their party to be stolen from them.

      Don't believe me?

      Look at the news today. House GOP passes an abortion-related bill while their leader threatens impeachment (OVER RAISING MINIMUM WAGE). They are trying to drown out the fact that Obama is trying to help workers by putting ABORTION in big red lights and turning on the siren.

      It's a pattern. It happens every time. Talk to some people who lean right/pro life (not crazy people) and you'll find they've noticed this pattern as well. They may hate Obama but they're beginning to hate their own party, too. In an ideal world they'd become Dems but I think, instead, these folks are going to stay home on election day.

      Things are changing. Seriously.

      •  Impeachment isn't the wedge issue. (0+ / 0-)

        But, it is used as a smoke screen while other more caustic topics are being used rather divisively.

        "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin

        by politicalceci on Tue Jan 28, 2014 at 06:09:24 PM PST

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