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  •  I have a serious personal interest in cancer. (9+ / 0-)

    And then one day at work, I happened to pick up the latest copy of Nature, on the table by the photocopier, and it had the Schafer paper. It was one of those, "Jesus, who'da thunkit?" moments. (By the way, I'm surprised to see it was Nature -- if you asked me, I would have said, "I think it was Cell, or maybe Science".)

    Off-topic, yesterday's Nature included an extraordinary paper on stem cells. Like, potentially game-changing.

    To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

    by UntimelyRippd on Thu Jan 30, 2014 at 07:37:27 AM PST

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    •  it is a big stem cell breakthrough indeed..... (4+ / 0-)
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      so now every stem cell can be sacred, not just the fertilized egg.

      You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you mad. Aldous Huxley

      by murrayewv on Thu Jan 30, 2014 at 09:53:23 AM PST

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      •  wasn't it adult cells that can be turned into (2+ / 0-)
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        stem cells, so now every cell can be sacred?

        •  "Old tree": The last study that i read on your.. (3+ / 0-)

          .. question (Sorry, I dont have that reference at hand) did indeed demonstrate adult cells being transformed into stem cells by oxidative stress.

        •  Folks in stem cell research don't talk (1+ / 0-)
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          about this a lot, because it is fraught with ethical peril. Yes, scientists can use induced pluripotent stem cells from adult mice to produce new mice -- though there's rather more to the process than is made clear in that statement. Human ES cells and mouse ES cells have some significant biological differences, so it's not entirely clear how well the techniques would transfer. Regardless, if anyone has actually done it with human cells, they aren't admitting it, not least because such research would be illegal almost anywhere in the "civilized" world. (There were some controversial results reported about a year ago that had me scratching my head, because it sure looked like the company in question was claiming to have done something that was a big no-no.)

          To put the torture behind us is, inevitably, to put it in front of us.

          by UntimelyRippd on Thu Jan 30, 2014 at 03:30:15 PM PST

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