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  •  Warren has already bowed out (2+ / 0-)
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    Lysis, wuod kwatch

    and all 16 female Democratic Senators have signed a letter urging Hillary Clinton to run.  

    We are trying to keep control of the presidency in the party, which is of extreme importance (given the ages of Supreme Court justices Scalia, Kennedy, Ginsburg and Breyer.)  Usually a party that has two terms in the presidency loses next time around.

      You might be right that it does not matter that much, given the current state of the GOP, but there are about 45% of the people on the GOP wagon, no matter what, so a charismatic candidate who pretends to be "fighting" his GOP brethren (like, say, Jeb Bush who claims to be at odds with many of the GOP statements on Immigration and other issues, and has a Hispanic wife to trot out) could still beat a light weight Democrat who will undoubtedly get a lot of dirt and smear thrown their way.   With Hillary, given her extreme long-lasting popularity with the entirety of the American people (almost at 70%) trying that in absence of any new smoking guns it appears to be next to impossible to pull off.   With a currently largely unknown Democratic Senator or Governor, who knows?          

    •  How do you figure 45% on the GOP wagon? (1+ / 0-)
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      floridageorge

      I could see a Jeb Bush having a fighting chance if his last name were Jones or Rodriguez or anything but Bush. Between his Immigration-friendly positions (like his brother), and his own family story complete with handsome young son, he would be formidable.

      Is America really ready to elect another Bush?  The last time didn't end so well.

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      by dinotrac on Thu Jan 30, 2014 at 10:39:44 AM PST

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      •  A candidate as tone deaf as Mitt Romney (2+ / 0-)
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        who angered most people with his 47% remark, who was a representant of the super rich guild (almost like a Rockefeller or British royalty),  managed to anger most Hispanics with his "self deportation" comments on Immigration who made no attempts at even pretend populism (GOP style,)  still managed to get 47% of the vote.  A candidate without Romney's tone deafness on the right side of immigration and with better oratorical skills could have made the contest a lot closer.  

        Not sure if Jeb Bush intends to run, but if he sees a relatively "weak" Democratic field with mostly unknown names (if Hillary decides against running) he might, and try a more populist platform, demonstrating that he is "his own master" by publically rebuking elements of the tea party.  Let's face it, the only Republican who can win the general is the one who goes against the extreme right wing, and that is a tough needle to thread, as you have to go through right-wing dominated primaries.   Bush might be able to threat that needle if enough primary voters are convinced he, more than anyone else,  can beat a relatively unknown Democratic name for the presidency.  

        •  A reasonable assessment. (0+ / 0-)

          W was the most right-wing of the Bushes, and even he is almost a liberal by current standards.

          The Bush name might carry enough weight in the party to let him get the nom, but I'm not sure.  The party seems to have run away from reasonable people.

          But hey!

          In the last two years I've been wrong about these things significantly more often than I've been right.  I can't figure the Republican party out to save my life.  Democrats are far more predictable.  Not completely, of course, but definitely more rational on balance.

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          by dinotrac on Thu Jan 30, 2014 at 11:25:15 AM PST

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