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  •  "Minor Blip"? I Think Not (3+ / 0-)

    The Tar Sands Pipeline will lock us into carbon fuels more than ever before. Why? Because it was one thing when the U.S. had to import carbon fuels from other nations. That was always something we wanted to end. But when the U.S. becomes King Carbon -- as it is -- then we aren't going to change anything. And if we don't initiate the changes then there will be no changes and this artificially cheap carbon fuel will strangle clean alternatives. Our job is to ensure -- as best we can -- that the price of carbon fuels includes its social costs. Otherwise, all we are doing is yet more privatizing profits and socializing costs.

    Tell me this: if this pipeline is constructed -- a transnational pipeline built at enormous cost and bisecting the entire the nation -- what is the likelihod that it will be turned off before all the tar sand soil is extracted and burned? Close to zero, I'd say. And James Hansen says burning the tar sands oil is game over for the climate. It isn't a "minor blip," it is guaranteed global calamity.

    •  Agree with everything you say except (2+ / 0-)

      that there ain't no way this fuel is destined for sale in the U.S. It's those juicy developing markets in Asia, and to a lesser extent, the hope of regulatory failure in Europe (brought on by more pandering to corporations, I mean "free trade agreements") that's drawing people like the Koch brothers to invest in this crap.

      I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Feb 03, 2014 at 07:46:06 AM PST

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      •  Agreed (1+ / 0-)
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        King Carbon means being the new Saudi Arabia. In 20 years the U.S. will be the world's largest purveyor of carbon fuels. If that happens, Big Oil's death-grip may well be unbreakable.

        •  Ah, I see. (1+ / 0-)
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          Then in that case, I only quibble with your nationalism (in that future "the U.S." won't mean crap). But it really is a quibble. :-)

          I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

          by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Feb 03, 2014 at 08:26:44 AM PST

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