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  •  One of the things that has always infuriated me (29+ / 0-)

    about the anti-abortion extremists is their refusal to support easy access to contraception. If contraception is safe, easy, effective and readily accessible, abortion rates are likely to go down.
    As I heard on one of my MSNBC shows recently -- no woman gets up in the morning laughing about how she's going to get an abortion. Deciding to get an abortion is serious business, often distressing, even when a woman has the money and access to abortion services. While contraceptives don't make abortion entirely unnecessary, they do reduce the need for abortion.
    And yet we have the right wing, the same people who say abortion is murder, trying to sabotage contraceptive availability made possible by the ACA.
    I sometimes think that one of the key requirements for membership in the right wing community is extreme and multiple hypocrisy.

    While Democrats work to get more people to vote, Republicans work to ensure those votes won't count.

    by Tamar on Mon Feb 03, 2014 at 09:07:45 AM PST

    •  They're Against Birth Control, Against Women Havin (17+ / 0-)

      sex, and against any sex out of M-F wedlock.

      Conservatives are about rules not results. Their belief is that it's nobody's business to give a rat's ass about society and certainly nobody's business to do anything about it.

      That's a core fundamental principle, it applies to everything other than security against invasion and crime.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Mon Feb 03, 2014 at 09:27:21 AM PST

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    •  What I don't understand, is why not just have the (4+ / 0-)
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      government set up health clinics just for contraception availability...why go thru the corporatehood of Planned Parenthood. Not abortion clinics, God forbid, but just contraception. Take the middle man out of it so no 'religious freedom' excuse can take root.

      •  Our county does that (10+ / 0-)

        County health services offers free or reduced contraception, because the county recognizes that unwanted pregnancies cost them a heck of a lot more.  They also do basic gyn and pap screening.

        For those that do want children, the county also provides low cost pre-natal exams, and well baby visits for the first year, also at a reduced rate.

        And shots throughout life.  

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        by catwho on Mon Feb 03, 2014 at 10:56:56 AM PST

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      •  because the right-wingers won't allow it (7+ / 0-)

        If it's anathema for anyone to fund Planned Parenthood (or allow them to collect Medicaid reimbursements for contraception and other health services other than abortion), it would be even worse to have the government directly providing contraceptives.

        There are clinics in some high schools -- or at least a bowl of free condoms on the nurse's desk. There should be more, but local school boards say "not on our watch."

      •  I'm not sure what you mean by "government." (4+ / 0-)
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        The federal government certainly isn't going to set up clinics that offer contraception -- can you imagine Congress ever allowing that to happen? Another commenter points out that some counties have clinics with contraception. But unless you live in a very liberal area, local government won't do that either. It's far too controversial (though it shouldn't be).
        Planned Parenthood has a long history of serving women, offering contraceptive services at low cost. I certainly used their services when I was a student. They know what they're doing and they do it very well.
        I don't agree with your designation of them as "corporatehood." They're a big organization but they are mission driven and have been excellent advocates for women's health throughout their long history (almost 100 years).

        While Democrats work to get more people to vote, Republicans work to ensure those votes won't count.

        by Tamar on Mon Feb 03, 2014 at 11:09:25 AM PST

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      •  One, Planned Parenthood is not (1+ / 0-)
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        a corporation, it's a not-for-profit.

        Two, no government funds go to Planned Parenthood for abortion.

        Three, why the "God forbid" over abortion clinics?  It is a legal activity the last time I checked and it makes sense to offer it as part of an array of women's health services.

        Four, how is Planned Parenthood impinging on anyone's religious freedom by providing privately-funded abortion services?  If your religion forbids you to get an abortion, don't get one.  No one, including Planned Parenthood, is forcing you to.

        These religious wing-nuts need to learn that just because something exists that they don't approve of morally and someone (not them) has the legal right to engage in the practice, it's not an attack on their religious freedom.  There is no Constitutionally protected right to force your religious beliefs on someone else.  

      •  Why not set up good, clean, respectable clinics (0+ / 0-)

        for every damned medical need you might have?  Some place that does not subject you to the ought-to-be criminal conspiracy that parades as American health care?

        Sorry -- got off topic and ranting.

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        by dinotrac on Mon Feb 03, 2014 at 12:45:42 PM PST

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    •  Their phony hypocritical pro-life stance (1+ / 0-)
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      has nothing to do with actuallly being pro-life:

      It is all about control.

      .............extreme and multiple hypocrisy.
      What a great observation.........................and it's the only way people can be qualified for the political right.

      "The people who were trying to make this world worse are not taking the day off. Why should I?”---Bob Marley

      by lyvwyr101 on Mon Feb 03, 2014 at 11:17:34 AM PST

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      •  And I have a few cousins who are anti birth (3+ / 0-)
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        control plus anti abortion because they want to adopt or they want to see more babies put up for adoption. They want all single mothers to put their kids up for adoption, claiming there are not enough babies to adopt in this country. They are quite delusional.  

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        by wishingwell on Mon Feb 03, 2014 at 11:37:17 AM PST

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        •  I'd have to agree with that. (0+ / 0-)

          "The people who were trying to make this world worse are not taking the day off. Why should I?”---Bob Marley

          by lyvwyr101 on Mon Feb 03, 2014 at 11:58:04 AM PST

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        •  There are plenty of babies (2+ / 0-)
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          available for adoption in this country. Where things fall apart is that the "demand" is largely for white babies.
          Maybe that's what your cousins think we need more of.

          •  That is possible although one of those cousins (2+ / 0-)
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            did adopt an African American baby. I was surprised when I heard that. So maybe I do not give them enough credit because they are mean girls who treat people with such disrespect across the board plus they are so anti womens healthcare and anti everything.

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            by wishingwell on Mon Feb 03, 2014 at 04:15:56 PM PST

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            •  It's hard to give people like this credit. (1+ / 0-)
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              ......they are mean girls who treat people with such disrespect across the board plus they are so anti womens healthcare and anti everything.

              "The people who were trying to make this world worse are not taking the day off. Why should I?”---Bob Marley

              by lyvwyr101 on Tue Feb 04, 2014 at 10:23:40 AM PST

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