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    •  This might be what your friends think they can do (14+ / 0-)

      I think that they might watch a tad too many movies like this. I'm trying to think of the last time a government was overthrown by force from citizens, can't come up with anything.

    •  That was easy. (2+ / 0-)
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      Glen The Plumber, Matt Z

      You can't make this stuff up.

      by David54 on Tue Feb 04, 2014 at 04:01:25 AM PST

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    •  Didn't they all end up dead in the movie? (2+ / 0-)
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      I never saw it because the entire idea was so stupid and so unrealistic I refused to slap down my hard-earned cash.

      This isn't freedom. This is fear - Captain America

      by Ellid on Tue Feb 04, 2014 at 07:24:24 AM PST

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      •  The only Wolverine I'll watch (2+ / 0-)
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        fumie, Glen The Plumber

        is Hugh Jackman.

      •  All but two of them died. (1+ / 0-)
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        The brothers at the end sat next to each other with fatal wounds.

        Thus anyone who critiques the movie as a gung-ho fantasy obviously never watched the movie and is going off stories of other people who have never watched it.

        I don't call near starvation and freezing and have to shoot your friend because they are bugged and watching almost all of your high school friends get killed horifficly and your parents put in concentration camps a fantasy.

        •  Many fantasies are morbid. (1+ / 0-)
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          This is a problem with some gun fetishists: they imagine (fantasize) many scenarios in which their gun is the best way they can try to defend themselves or others from evil-doers. Then, they transfer this fantasy (fear) to reality and policy. Sure, happy endings are nice, but even morbid martyr fantasies of some preppers I know reinforce their desire for guns, to "go down shooting." Their lesson from these dark fantasies is that they should get even more firepower.

          The word has taken on a positive valence in common use (a fantasy woman, a fantasy vacation), but that's not a necessary part of the definition:

          fan·ta·sy  (făn′tə-sē, -zē)
          n. pl. fan·ta·sies
          1. The creative imagination; unrestrained fancy. See Synonyms at imagination.
          2. Something, such as an invention, that is a creation of the fancy.
          3. A capricious or fantastic idea; a conceit.
          4. a. Fiction characterized by highly fanciful or supernatural elements. b. An example of such fiction.
          5. An imagined event or sequence of mental images, such as a daydream, usually fulfilling a wish or psychological need.
          6. An unrealistic or improbable supposition.
          7. Music See fantasia.
          8. A coin issued especially by a questionable authority and not intended for use as currency.

          9. Obsolete A hallucination.
          tr.v. fan·ta·sied, fan·ta·sy·ing, fan·ta·sies
          To imagine; visualize.
          [Middle English fantasie, fantsy, from Old French fantasie, from Latin phantasia, from Greek phantasiā, appearance, imagination, from phantazesthai, to appear, from phantos, visible, from phainesthai, to appear; see bhā-1 in Indo-European roots.]

          Dark fantasy is a subgenre of fantasy which can refer to literary, artistic and filmic works that combine fantasy with elements of horror. The term can be used broadly to refer to fantastical works that have a dark, gloomy atmosphere or a sense of horror and dread.

      •  Lea Thompson and Brad Savage (1+ / 0-)
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        Escaped at the end of the movie.  Thompson narrates at the end:

        In the early days of World War III, guerrillas – mostly children – placed the names of their lost upon this rock. They fought here alone and gave up their lives, so "that this nation shall not perish from the earth."

        Talk about a nice, rousing, patriotic end to a semi-okay Cold War movie.  It was children with guns that stopped the big, bad Russkies!  I never saw the movie in the theater, but it the late 80s, Red Dawn would play endlessly on TBS when all the other cable stations had nothing to watch--that and the Beastmaster!

        I have no interest in seeing the remake.

        •  The remake got lousy reviews (1+ / 0-)
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          I only saw snippets, but again, the whole premise was so ridiculous that I had no interest in seeing the rest.

          This isn't freedom. This is fear - Captain America

          by Ellid on Tue Feb 04, 2014 at 10:31:30 AM PST

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