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  •  Thank you and (0+ / 0-)

    sorry, I don't know much about "Ikiru"
    (You mentioned it before. Thank you for your patient.)

    What I found out was only story line.

    Could you explain the question more specific?
    What exactly made you puzzle?
    and what can I help?

    What this movie tell us is,
    I believe, Japanese are the same.
    We want what everybody want.
    We don't care what everybody think.
    but the society won't let us.

    Watanabe, the main character was dying.
    He was no longer afraid of the rule.
    He pursued what he wanted.

    At the funeral, everybody else saw what he did.
    and realize everybody else wanted the same.

    but reality was, nobody else was dying.
    next day was just like any other day.
    Everybody keep doing what they always did.
    nothing will change.

    except the park
    Watanabe built was remained as his effort ...

    •  Well, young as you are, my dear... (0+ / 0-)

      ...you might take a trip back to Ikiru and here, singing in the bar. I guess I thought the family scene was unnecessary. Very jarring! All of a sudden we see the funeral and a bunch of arguing takes place with one guy (one of his co-workers, I think) gets really, really pissed at the deconstruction of Watanabe's life. That's beautiful but the placing of this scene in the movie is just weird.

      The funeral with the old ladies (who came in to honor Watanabe for being a human being instead of a faceless bureaucrat) give away the ending, which is the park is build, the gangsters and city hall are seen to bee ineffective and stupid against his more force.

      Watanabe is played by Shimura Takashi (who played in Godzilla as the little faceless scientist) is so perfect as a guy who's let his life run out without doing anything. Nothing. Then cancer, then a brief romance, getting drunk with an artist, singing about love, then facing down city hall, the crooks, the other departments, etc. In the end his glory is this tiny park that these old ladies wanted to build on top of a toxic dump (or something).

      What stronger breast-plate than a heart untainted! Thrice is he arm'd, that hath his quarrel just; And he but naked, though lock'd up in steel, Whose conscience with injustice is corrupted. Henry VI Part II Act 3 Scene 2

      by TerryDarc on Thu Feb 06, 2014 at 06:47:27 PM PST

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      •  Yes, thank you (0+ / 0-)

        and still I don't understand your question

        very jarring? because?
        what exactly did they do to annoy you?
        sorry I couldn't find the scene you are talking about
        and I really want to know.

        •  I am not annoyed... (1+ / 0-)
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          ...but I am puzzled by why this scene of Watabe's funeral is placed in the middle of the film. According to another poster, it was originally place at the end of the film which would have been even worse. I guess, I think the scene of the funeral could have been eliminated, especially given the perfection of the rest of the film.

          The other part of the film is about Watanabe's wasted life, faceless little, petty bureaucrat - but wait! He get's it finally and decides to live. He faces down crooks, many city departments and gets the park build for the old ladies.

          Then the stupid funeral scene with workers and the vice-mayor arguing over Watanabe's real contribution. The city officials are tearing Watanabe down and his body isn't even cold yet.

          Actually, as long as Watanabe gets to sit in the swing in the little park, in the snow, all alone with his life work done put at the end of the film, you could put the funeral wherever you wanted. It was just very puzzling when I first saw the film and again and again, puzzling.

          Put the funeral scene in the director's cut on DVD. Or, leave it out. You have to see the film and talk about it or not as the case may be.

          What stronger breast-plate than a heart untainted! Thrice is he arm'd, that hath his quarrel just; And he but naked, though lock'd up in steel, Whose conscience with injustice is corrupted. Henry VI Part II Act 3 Scene 2

          by TerryDarc on Sat Feb 08, 2014 at 05:13:40 PM PST

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          •  I see (0+ / 0-)

            I may missing the point here,
            but
            I didn't like the grandpa's funeral at all.
            There were a lot of drunken people, being silly.

            Japanese funeral turns to get ugly.
            Since funeral tends to hold for the oldest person in the group. So you couldn't talk things in front of the person.
            Now, you could feel free to talk.
            It tends to get very disrespectful.

            They were talking about our grandpa, but showed no respect for us neither.

            But, the funeral is the one of the most honest and truthful moment for everybody.

            That may be meant something.

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