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  •  A fairweather Dem, no doubt, (10+ / 0-)

    with only a 65% record of voting with Party Leadership, nevertheless Ron Barber (AZ CD-02) is going to need all the help he can get if he's going to keep the seat Blue and a vote for Speaker Pelosi.

    My Baja Arizona Kossacks friends think I'm nuts for supporting Barber in light of some of his undeniably atrocious for a Progressive votes, but Romney carried the district and Barber only won election by a couple of thousand votes weeks after election day.

    The same challenger, Martha McSally, the first female combat fighter pilot, is back better funded that ever, in a district with two major military installations, and Barber has been the subject of those Koch funded anti-ACA tv ads for several months.

    If this seat stays Blue it'll be because Barber got a lot of outside help.

    War beats down, and sows with salt, the hearts and minds of soldiers." Brecht

    by DaNang65 on Mon Feb 10, 2014 at 01:50:13 PM PST

    •  your Baja Kossack friends are nuts if they think (10+ / 0-)

      they're going to get a better rep from that district, given how its basically 50-50 and Barber and Giffords are the only Dems its elected in my lifetime, and both are moderate to conservative Dems. The area obviously likes Rs given how easy Jim Kolbe had a time of it there.

      ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

      by James Allen on Mon Feb 10, 2014 at 02:18:43 PM PST

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      •  Thanks, James, (8+ / 0-)

        what you wrote is exactly what I've been trying to tell them. Party leaders from state and national levels have put the squelch on a primary.

        No Dem with even an outside shot at electability will declare, so its Barber or McSally. She's stated she won't moderate her tea-ish views, perhaps enough moderates and independents will see the light.

        War beats down, and sows with salt, the hearts and minds of soldiers." Brecht

        by DaNang65 on Mon Feb 10, 2014 at 02:26:13 PM PST

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        •  my home town elected its state senator (3+ / 0-)
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          to congress in 2008 and he became a blue dog. He and his now ex-wife are prominent local pols (she's a county commissioner, one of only 2 Dems on the 5 seat commission in a swingy county) and lots of local progressives are unhappy with their records. But they are stronger campaigners in swing areas than anyone else in the county, and our home town is one of the only cities in the county Obama lost even in 2008, and in fact didn't win a single precinct. They had to fight to earn their place.

          Yeah they're not perfect but he votes with us when it counts and he easily holds down what would otherwise be a swingy congressional district. I get it.

          ...better the occasional faults of a government that lives in a spirit of charity, than the consistent omissions of a government frozen in the ice of its own indifference. -FDR, 1936

          by James Allen on Mon Feb 10, 2014 at 02:55:47 PM PST

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    •  Barber is a great pick as well (4+ / 0-)
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      I just wouldn't put him in my top 10. Top 20 definitely, but I'm guessing most Kossacks don't have the budget for that and I certainly don't so I tried to keep the list short.

      Barber has certainly been defecting on symbolic votes that are utterly meaningless to maintain his moderate cred. I would imagine he'd gladly back major agenda items like a minimum wage increase if they ever got a vote.

      •  Where were you guys Saturday night (3+ / 0-)
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        (Baja AZ Kossacks meetup)? Thank you Stephen, I've been feeling like a lone voice for sanity. I especially like

        Barber has certainly been defecting on symbolic votes that are utterly meaningless to maintain his moderate cred.
        None of his votes that have so outraged my friends amounted to anything. Certainly not considering how he'd have been beaten over the head during the general with those votes had he gone the other way. Pre-emptive disarming.

        War beats down, and sows with salt, the hearts and minds of soldiers." Brecht

        by DaNang65 on Mon Feb 10, 2014 at 02:40:45 PM PST

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    •  I like to differentiate between politicians (2+ / 0-)
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      There are some who vote conservatively and hold a swing/conservative district.  And then there are assholes who go on tv and trash Democrats.  The latter are the ones who deserve to be scorned.

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