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  •  live in Arlington teach in PG (none)
    did teach in Arlington for one year at Williamsburg Middle, but returned to my current school because (a) want hs, and (b) want diversity

    Came close to teaching in FFX twice -- once the man now principal at Langley, who interviewed me for the County when he was #2 in the school, invited me to visit the school for 1/2 day, and then told me he wanted to hire me to teach AP government to replace a man who was becoming an Assistant Principal.  That man's appointment did not come through until August first, and the terms of the contracts around here require tenured teachers to give notice by July 15 or they are considered legally bound to return and can get their certificates lifted by the state of the dsitrict they leave.

    The second time an assistant principal at West Potomac very much wanted to hire me, but the people who had signed open contracts (which I would not do for Fairfax) had to be placed before any additional hires could be made, and the person in staffing responsible for social studies decided to take a two week vacation July 1 -15, making it again impossible for me to move.  The County called on July 17th, but I had to explain that I was legally bound.

    BTW -- I have not renewed my Virginia certificate.  I expect to stay where I am as long as I can teach with the flexibility I have to use my best judgment.  I am well rooted in my school and department, after 6 years (out of the last 7).  Since i decided not to finish my doctorate, I actually make almost as much as I would in a Virginia district because we have a masters + 60 ladders while the Virginia districts do not  -- Falls Church does not even have a doctoral scale, only through masters + 30.

    Fairfax schools are now getting overcrowded.  And given the cost of living and the competitiveness for teachers, they ahve been losing teachers to Loudoun recently.

    Feel free to contact me offline if you'd like to get together between now and August 15 when I report back to school.

    Those who can, do. Those who can do more, TEACH!

    by teacherken on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 07:57:10 AM PDT

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    •  Did you get your job (none)
      Before or after your masters degree? I ask that because here in PA, it is considered a miracle if a masters degree person can get a teaching job. They tend to hire teachers fresh out of a bachelors program with no experience so start at the bottom rung. But we have some state minimum of something like 31k for starters without experience. And that is unfair as a suburban Pittsburgh teacher has a higher cost of living than someone in a remote school district making the same salary. I know this teacher making 40k and only paying 350 a month in rent for a large 2 bedroom apartment. It sure beats those making 40 k and having to pay 1500 month for an apt or mortgage so it is VERY unfair.

      Of course here in PA, one has to compete against 100-300 people for each teacher job opening.
      It is crazy here, the competition is stiff. I think because we suffered a LOt, A huge , Job loss here. And school enrollment is way down as people move out of the state.

      We have a problem with too many teachers and Teacher Layoffs

      We choose hope over despair; possibilities over problems, optimism over cynicism.-John Edwards

      by wishingwell on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 11:08:06 AM PDT

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      •  both before and after - let me explain (none)
        I already had one master's degree, not in education, when I went off and embarked on a Masters of Arts in Teaching at Johns Hopkins.  Our program was a bit unusual in that while we received our certification after completing our student teaching, we did not receive our Masters at that time.  The program required us to do an action research project in our own classrooms, and participate in an induction seminar during that first year of teaching.   We received the masters near the end of the first year (when the college year ended, which was about 3 weeks before my teaching year ended).

        Statewide salary standards are often unfair -- those in low-cost areas probably get more than they need (more power to them) while those in high cost areas do not get enough.

        Here in the DC area there are no statewide standards for pay in either Virginia or Maryland.  The median price for a 3 bedroom single family home in Arlington is now over half a million.  A one bedroom apartment runs easily 800-900 a month.  A beginning teacher might with a Masters get 40,000.  S/he will probably have to live in shared housing (which is fairly common for lots of people in DC) and might not be able to afford a car.  Fortunately Arlington has superb public transportation -- METRO (subway)  and bus, and there are many cases where one can be within walking distance of schools and shopping.  Heck, the house we live in is within reasonable walking distance of tow of the three high schools in the county (2 miles or less). two middle schools (I am a secondary teacher) and the alternative progressive "program" HB Woodlawn commonly known as hippie high.  I am two miles or less from four 24 hour supermarkets, several with 24 hours pharmacies, dry cleaners, pet supply stores, restaurants, etc.  We are one mile from a metro stop, and the bus stops in front of our house.  Arlington is a wonderful community that way.

        But what if one lives in a community that lacks good public transportation, that is not as compact as Arlington (190,000 people in 26 square miles),.. then one would have to have a car, which adds to the expenses one incurs.

        Just a thought or two.

        Those who can, do. Those who can do more, TEACH!

        by teacherken on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 03:33:09 PM PDT

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