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  •  When are you going to wake up and support us? (10+ / 0-)

    We in the unions have been fighting this fight for well over a century. We are expanding where the laws are not stacked against us, particularly where Democrats do not join in restricting our rights, and we are international.

    Look at fast-food workers going out on strike. Look at Walmart workers and their supporters demonstrating across the country against poverty wages, and the Walmart billionaires who mooch off Federal assistance to the poor. Look at teachers, whose primary contract demands are to be allowed to teach, and to be accorded a minimum of respect. Look at the movement, decades late, to raise the minimum wage. We are not the ones who forgot the working poor.

    Union rights are minority rights, going back to the Brotherhood of Sleeping Car Porters. Union rights are women's rights, particularly on harassment and on equal pay and promotion, but on many other issues besides. Union rights are immigrants' rights, most obviously in the Farm Workers Union and on menial cleaning jobs. Union rights here are the foundation for rights for workers in every other country. Union rights are every other economic and non-discrimination right.

    Where were you when Democrats threw EFCA under the bus even though we nominally controlled both Houses of Congress? Where were you when Democratic voters stayed home in 2010 and allowed anti-union state legislatures and governors to loot our pensions and take away our bargaining rights? Where were you when Democrats embraced charter schools and abandoned the idea of free and equal public schools?

    Maybe you should read the labor news before going off half-cocked. Better still, you could come down to a local union hall that hosts Democratic political meetings and join in.

    Back off, man. I'm a logician.—GOPBusters™

    by Mokurai on Sun Feb 09, 2014 at 09:52:59 AM PST

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    •  I agree with most of what you said, but (3+ / 0-)
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      2010?  Really?  The same Democratic voters who stayed home in 2010 were the same Democratic voters who stay home every freaking midterm.  A lot of people simply don't understand the importance of midterms, and we have yet to find a way to convince them of it.

      There was no great 'We're taking our ball home!' movement in 2010, just the same old same old as always.

    •  As for 2010, I was screaming at people here (2+ / 0-)
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      and elsewhere, who were saying "Dems and the Gop are the same, no reason to vote", that they were idiots.
      And they were.
      I know some unions and some union members are working their asses off.
      I agree totally with the historical importance of unions.
      I understand what you're saying about the forces arrayed against organized labor.

      But I see some unions sticking to parochial concerns (supporting Christie!?) and I don't see a comprehensive strategy and I don't see Solidarity with a capital S, etc.

      You can't make this stuff up.

      by David54 on Sun Feb 09, 2014 at 05:52:51 PM PST

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      •  Dear pagan gods of old! (1+ / 0-)
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        Will people on this site stop repeating this goddamned lie!

        Look, if you continue to blame people for betraying you when they in fact stayed loyal under terrible conditions, you are going to eventually lose all of them. People don't like being punished for what they didn't do. Keep excoriating the fictitious whining slacker hippies for a few more years and you will eventually create a self-fulfilling prophecy.

        Why the hell should people keep doing massive amounts of volunteer labor, give money they can't afford to candidates who don't give a shit about their dearest issues, and then turn out to vote for said candidates, if what they get in the end is bad policy and a kick in the face?

        I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

        by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Feb 10, 2014 at 09:35:23 AM PST

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    •  I'm in favor of labor. (0+ / 0-)

      But labor, I'm sorry to say, is not entirely reliable on economic issues. For instance, where is labor when it comes to John Conyers' Jobs for All bill, HR1000? That's a bill that aims to create full employment in this country, along with extensive job training and retraining, funded by a transaction tax on Wall St. It's good policy, it's pro-working class, and it will help slow down the pace of trading on those damned Bloombergian computers, thus adding a little more stability to the financial sector. There is literally nothing in this bill that labor shouldn't love.

      So where the hell are the unions in support of this bill?

      I'm sorry I'm a little hot under the collar about this. I'm willing to suck up the fact that a lot of unions are standing on the side of the Koch brothers in the KXL Pipeline fiasco, because the Koch brothers and their friends are promising the construction workers 2 years' worth of temporary jobs in exchange for our nation's water supply. I'm willing to remain an ally of labor despite that. But when it comes to turning a cold shoulder on a bill like Conyers', it's just damned inexplicable.

      And by the way, this is absolutely false and has been disproved repeatedly. Meteor Blades himself said that repeating that meme was HR-worthy. Take a look at this diary before you swallow the lie.

      I tried to go online to find a similar bear head...but when I searched “Big Bear Head” it gave me a San Diego craigslist ad entitled “Big Bear needs some quick head now” and then I just decided to never go on the internet again.--Jenny Lawson

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Mon Feb 10, 2014 at 09:31:43 AM PST

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