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  •  In some cases yes, but your argument does come (1+ / 0-)
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    across as a blanket statement that applies to all.  The reality is that it's an act that spans a spectrum from sex to power.

    When a mentally ill peeping tom with some weird fetish crawls in through an apartment window and rapes a woman in her bedroom, that's an example on an act falling on the sexual end of the spectrum.

    When a Serbian militia enters a town in Kosovo and rapes all the Muslim women, that's an act falling squarely on the power end of the spectrum.

    Rape, and rape culture, is a very complex issue involving many facets; legal, ethical, sociogical.  I think sometimes diaries and the comments here lead to attempts to oversimplify the issue, which then has the opposite effect of confusing the argument.

    That's one of the reasons I've stayed out of the Woody Allen diaries.  At the end of the day, it's a voyueristic tabloid story that I don't want to get sucked into.

    Dont Mourn, Organize !#konisurrender

    by cks175 on Sun Feb 09, 2014 at 03:26:10 PM PST

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    •  Um, being a peeping tom is not a mental illness (1+ / 0-)
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      It's sick, yes. But mental illness is not a requirement for doing sick things or having a sick fetish.  Please do not conflate the two.

      •  Not conflated, but in the instance of that example (0+ / 0-)

        the peeping tom is mentally ill.  I was not implying that voyeurism is symptomatic of mental illness.

        Dont Mourn, Organize !#konisurrender

        by cks175 on Sun Feb 09, 2014 at 03:43:51 PM PST

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        •  The thing about sexual violence (3+ / 0-)
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          That people are missing is that it's about not respecting someone else's boundaries and agency when it comes to their bodies.  It's not about what the rapists' thoughts are and their motives (in their minds it may be about sex, but at the same time, there may be feelings of sexual inadequacies and deep misogyny as well).  It's about the feeling of violation that the victim feels in the aftermath.  She's not going to feel it is about anything sexy.  She's going to feel gross and dirty.  She's going to feel things are out of her control.  She fears (and sadly, rightly so) that no one will believe her.  

          I guess my question is that how a site is willing to challenge the privileged elite in their excesses when it comes to money can't somehow translate that to issues of sexual violence as well.  After all, we seem to have no problems calling the bankers on Wall Street criminals, even as there as been no adjudication in the court of law to that effect, and there is plenty of documented evidence of criminality that the public has gathered to conclude Wall Street bankers as criminals.  We do not seem to apply that same standard to rapists and it just bothers me.

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