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  •  I think you're right, and that sucks for Snowden. (2+ / 0-)
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    4kedtongue, duhban

    Anything released from what he provided is on him, no? Legally, that is.

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    by GoGoGoEverton on Mon Feb 10, 2014 at 10:16:34 AM PST

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    •  Well... (3+ / 0-)

      ...it doesn't matter if it's released or not.  He took the documents and already released them to journalists.  I think that's what he's on the hook for.  I suppose that what I'm saying is that Greenwald need not write another story based on those documents.  As a matter of fact, he could burn them or destroy them and never have used them, and Snowden would still have been charged with a crime.

      I don't think that continued revelations are adding to what he has been charged with.  He has been charged under the Espionage Act.  Legally for Snowden, it can't get worse than that.

      all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

      by 4kedtongue on Mon Feb 10, 2014 at 10:25:48 AM PST

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    •  Your effort to demonize Greenwald is laughable. (11+ / 0-)

      There are other journalists involved in disseminating the stories as well, and so far they have been doing so responsibly, despite the hysteria of the intelligence community, the White House, and it's ardent supporters in the public, DC, and media (hello, Bob Cesca!).

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      by Kombema on Mon Feb 10, 2014 at 10:56:15 AM PST

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      •  Could be seen that way... (5+ / 0-)

        ...and given GGGE's comments regarding Greenwald, it's not a stretch to assume that's the intent -- to drive a wedge between Snowden supporters who feel that Greenwald's  reporting jeopardizes Snowden's reputation as a whistleblower.

        However, I simply read his comments in the vacuum and context of this diary exclusively, without any attempt to conflate previous comments he's made regarding Greenwald.

        If this was his intent, as far as I'm concerned, it failed.  But I'm a little weary addressing all comments made by critics of Snowden / Greenwald in a reactionary way.  My approach, in this instance, made for a less contentious exchange.  Maybe I'm simply mellowing in my old age, but the accusations and counter accusations based on inferrence and implication has simply lost most of its appeal for me.  At least for today.

        :)

        all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

        by 4kedtongue on Mon Feb 10, 2014 at 11:18:03 AM PST

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