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  •  Unfortunately, he's not a Jackie Robinson type of (9+ / 0-)

    athlete. He was expected to go in the 4th or 5th round (somewhat undersized for defensive line, a bit slow for linebacker). He could go lower, but one shouldn't assume it's from more than a talent evaluation. Mind, going in the 4th round still means you're a very good athlete with a chance to make the team, but he's not a lock.

    •  He's much more of one than Jason Collins... (12+ / 0-)

      I suspect that whichever team gives Sam a shot will give him a fair one. As much of a cynic as I am, I can't believe that all 32 teams would use Sam's orientation as an excuse to not draft him. He did have 11 sacks and 19 tackles for loss on the #5 team in the nation.

      Seattle showed what a good defense can do. He might fall in the draft but some team is going to make a risk/reward decision by the 4th round if he's still available.

      No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible.

      by Magster on Mon Feb 10, 2014 at 11:46:10 AM PST

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      •  in a later round he's big value. (1+ / 0-)
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        If you ever watch Moneyball, the lesson of that was
        "There are under-rated players, the key is finding the
        metrics to measure and then determining real value
        and then putting together the best value within the budget".

        My dad used to hire the "Undesirable" in the late 60's and
        70's. The fat, the Bald, the unattractive, women, blacks,
        asians.  He didn't care, they worked hard, they worked cheap
        and he was a slave driver and a cheapskate.

        However, he offered them flex time, child care and
        complete freedom to define their jobs.

        He made a ton of money and a number of them did okay.

        I don't know much about NFL drafts, but, the later the round the lower the contract, i'd wait see if you can get him at a value point where he exceeds other players.  Then if he starts handling the field well, use him for PR too.

    •  He was a pretty darn good pass rusher... (16+ / 0-)

      ...in the toughest (physically and talent-wise) conference in the country...AND he led said conference in tackles for a loss. That HAS to mean something when you're moving from college into the NFL.

      I can think of many, many teams who could use a player with his size and skill. Remember, Robert Mathis (Colts All-Pro) was a 5th round pick. This cat could easily become a premier player with work and dedication.

      Adequate health care should be a LEGAL RIGHT in the U.S without begging or bankruptcy. Until it is, we should not dare call our society civilized.

      by Love Me Slender on Mon Feb 10, 2014 at 11:47:31 AM PST

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    •  Super Bowl 48 champion Seahawks (13+ / 0-)

      are made up of middle to low round draft choices and probably as many undrafted players as ever found on a SB team. Result: One of the best defenses ever and one that other teams are sure emulate. Sam is the kind of person that would fit right into those plans for any number of teams. He plays awesome D.

      By the way, CBS and most of th talking heads favored the Broncos over the Seahawks. I suspect they're wrong about Sam, too. At least I hope so.

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      by RudiB on Mon Feb 10, 2014 at 11:48:14 AM PST

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    •  He'll go based on his ability (2+ / 0-)
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      Likely very close to where he would have gone had he not publicly come out.  At this point there's really no accurate prediction of where anyone but maybe a handful of players will go and things will change constantly between now and the draft in May.  
      Every year a player or 2 who were certain to go in the top 10 are hanging around far longer because draft guruism is about as scientific as creationism.  Players will be ranked by each team based on their perceived value to that team's needs and if his skills are at the top of the board when it comes time to select a player that's when he'll be drafted, I find it hard to believe that Mike Sam will be treated any differently.

    •  The idea is that he was suddenly dropped (2+ / 0-)
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      by CBS Sports to a lower pick by this obviously-spun bullshit.

      What blatant, sick, twisted, "let's drop a Divide 'Em Up into this Morning's Headlines" to keep everyone arguing. Sometimes, that shit is just tedious. Yes, News Powers That Be, the American Public CAN Multi-Task and we will continue to do so. We aren't going to stop paying attention to stuff like this. Or this. Or this, just because your homophobia is showing again.

      Fuck CBS Sports.
       

      This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

      by lunachickie on Mon Feb 10, 2014 at 12:09:24 PM PST

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      •  The CBS Sports Radio talk hosts (2+ / 0-)
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        I've heard have universally been very supportive of Sam; one pair did a great job at putting the assorted homophobe callers in their place.

        As for draft status, I'd say nothing can really be known till after the combine end of the month. He had a pretty weak Senior Bowl appearance (but that could have been coaching as much as individual performance); if he shows promise at the combine and especially some speed on the pass rush, he could still go as originally projected, mid to low 3rd round.

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        by Cali Scribe on Mon Feb 10, 2014 at 12:20:06 PM PST

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        •  That's great that a couple of them did that (0+ / 0-)
          one pair did a great job at putting the assorted homophobe callers in their place.
          But that in no way means this "sudden fall in the draft" Subject wasn't engineered to divide. I will never believe that it wasn't. Not now and not ever.

          This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

          by lunachickie on Mon Feb 10, 2014 at 01:18:56 PM PST

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          •  Not sure what you mean by "engineered 2 divide" (0+ / 0-)

            Are you upset they are reporting his stock might drop when the reality is it won't?  I think that's what I'm reading but I'm not sure.

            Dont Mourn, Organize !#konisurrender

            by cks175 on Mon Feb 10, 2014 at 08:05:29 PM PST

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