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  •  Bill McKibben? Van Jones? (3+ / 0-)
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    I know those guys are probably not going to run for President any time soon, but they and a bunch of others have definitely been inspiring the movement.

    As far as the presidential level, I just don't know if you can win an election in this country with someone much further to the left than PBO or Hillary (maybe Elizabeth Warren, but I'm not sure what she alone could do about climate change), because you're dealing with an ingrained system that feeding on itself. In my personal view, the grassroots are incredibly important to push whoever is in office (obviously needs to be a Democrat) to take whatever action they can. Of course, I may be totally wrong, I'd be delighted to vote for and promote a candidate who makes climate change his/her #1 priority.

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    by citisven on Thu Feb 13, 2014 at 11:41:12 AM PST

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    •  I don't think they should run for POTUS (4+ / 0-)

      I think they need to become visible and focused on this issue.  I like Van Jonesand Bill McKibben.  Definitely short list candidates.

      And Elizabeth Warren is solid on this issue;

      Elizabeth Warren Comes Down Hard Against Global Warming, Separates Herself From Hillary Clinton On Climate Change

      TransCanada Corporation wants to build the Keystone XL Pipeline to carry oil from Alberta Canada's tar sands to two refineries owned by Koch Industries near the Texas Gulf Coast, for export to Europe; and Hillary Clinton has helped to make that happen, but Elizabeth Warren has now taken the opposite side.

      Secretary of State Clinton, whose friend and former staffer Paul Elliot is a lobbyist for TransCanada, had worked behind the scenes to ease the way for commercial exploitation of this, the world's highest-carbon-emitting oil, 53% of which oil is owned by America's Koch Brothers. (Koch Industries owns 63% of the tar sands, and the Koch brothers own 86% of Koch Industries; Elaine Marshall, who is the widow of the son of the deceased Koch partner J. Howard Marshall, owns the remaining 14% of Koch Iindustries.)

      Hillary makes me nervous.

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      by Shockwave on Thu Feb 13, 2014 at 11:54:13 AM PST

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      •  me too (1+ / 0-)
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        but if she runs and becomes the D candidate I think our energy is better spent to make her a better ally than to fight her. I'd still vote for Elizabeth Warren (cool, I didn't know she had spoken out on CC) or Van Jones or another good climate change candidate in a primary if they ran, but beyond that the returns you get on a head-on fight are slim. I think that the wild card here is the climate itself. If the shit keeps hitting the fan like this, it may steer the whole 2016 campaign in a direction no one  can even imagine at this point. Stranger things have happened.

        Ecology is the new Economy => Kosonomy

        by citisven on Thu Feb 13, 2014 at 02:47:00 PM PST

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