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  •  You really wrote that: (1+ / 0-)
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    " ... have always abused every scrap of power given them to suppress dissent and maintain the status quo."
    Do you stand by it? I think it is about as hyperbolic as any statement I've read on daily kos. (Ergo, the quotes).

    Rand Paul is to civil liberties as the Disney Channel is to subtle and nuanced acting. Ron Paul thinks he's a wit, but he's only half right.

    by Tortmaster on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 09:54:21 PM PST

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    •  Doesn't make it false. (2+ / 0-)
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      Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ Garcia

      by DeadHead on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 10:36:36 PM PST

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    •  familiar with COINTELPRO? (2+ / 0-)
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      Ever read up on the sordid history of the FBI, CIA, etc? J Edgar Hoover ring a bell? The NSA director states that he wants to "collect it all".

      "Tell the truth and run." -- Yugoslav proverb

      by quill on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 11:19:15 PM PST

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      •  Do you stand by it? (1+ / 0-)
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        Rand Paul is to civil liberties as the Disney Channel is to subtle and nuanced acting. Ron Paul thinks he's a wit, but he's only half right.

        by Tortmaster on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 11:31:39 PM PST

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        •  History re-run (1+ / 0-)
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          I'll stand by History repeating itself. But doesn't it stand  on its own? Has not power been abused again? The 4th amendment has been violated on massive scale never witnessed before. I call that abuse of power. Where is the oversight? NSA administrators like Clapper for example, lying. Is that what we call oversight now? Where is the accountability? No Perjury charges have been filed, and the whistle blower is hiding in Russia fearing for his life. Where is the due process? Bulk collection of Data without warrants, doesn't sound like due process to me. Where is the Representation? I don't believe the average piss ant was represented in the secret courts. How did any of this come to light? Oversight? LOL
          It came to light thanks to a Patriot hiding in Russia with a price on his head.

        •  Good intentions (1+ / 0-)
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          I would be very interested in a demonstration of good intentions. I'm not talking about geopolitical calculations. I'm talking about a earnest honest to goodness demonstration of good intentions. Was NSA digging around in Brazil's biggest Oil Companies files in the pursuit of terrorists? LOL
          Sounds like more abuse to me. Abuse that tarnishes our Republic, undermining our security, putting us all at greater risk.

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