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  •  Awesome as usual burnt (22+ / 0-)

    Juncos were one of the first bird species I learned while growing up in central NY in the 50-60s. Capturing a spring robin in crayon was a highlight of my 2nd grade drawings. Like most things I try, once was enough and I did not go on as a Jr Audubon.

    Rainy here and in 40s but we are not froze like the rest of the southeast. Mid-30s next 2 nights. Storm should pass in another hour. I'm staying in for a change and probably settle down with a few hours of Game of Thrones. I have to watch each episode a couple times to figure out the plots and characters. and they keep dying!  

    Baking day for sure as I try to warm up the house.

    "You are what you write, not what you look like."

    by PHScott on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 08:01:45 AM PST

    •  Morning PH, no wait, it's afternoon already, got a (9+ / 0-)

      bit side tracked on our trip to town this morning. If I really concentrated I might be able to draw a robin today that might be almost as good as the one you drew in the second grade. I have zero talent when it comes to drawing or painting. In spite of a desire to learn and several attempts over the years, I suck as an artist.........

      Just give me some truth. John Lennon

      by burnt out on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 01:40:52 PM PST

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      •  I'll have none of that (7+ / 0-)
        I suck as an artist.........
        It's eye/hand coordination. Young students are encourage to practice while adults ... not so much. So, keep practicing when you get the desire. I draw what I see rather than what I know. It's about the eye following and the hand pretending to feel along the line of the object at the same time. Also, the brain sends constant messages like NW 1/4" then SW at roughly 15 degrees for the length of an inch etc. The brain gets tired and gives up without practice. It's like learning to ride a bike. Once you learn you will never forget. The distance you can ride may vary depending on what shape you are in.
        •  you tell him AZ! (10+ / 0-)

          but I surely know burnt's frustration..I just did a set of simple house plans and geez I was very annoyed at my declining drawing skills, something I was always just passable at anyway, but geez!... line work was all over the place, lettering were scribbles, corner joins were like thorns, ugh, Very embarrassing since I learned engineering drawing old school with line discipline and all the classic stuff...now barely there.

          I am amazed that people can draw at all, yet I see people doing drawings with shape, shade, perspective..way beyond simple 2d drawing skills I have lost and never had.

          This machine kills Fascists.

          by KenBee on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:14:48 PM PST

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        •  Heh. Ok, I'll give ya that practice would make me (7+ / 0-)

          better than I am but I honestly believe that some people have some sort of natural ability to be good at certain things and that if you aren't born with it then you'll never achieve much more than mediocrity, at that particular skill, no matter how hard you try. That's just my opinion of course but I really do believe it. How do you feel about that?

          Just give me some truth. John Lennon

          by burnt out on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 03:30:45 PM PST

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          •  Some artists believe that drawing skills (7+ / 0-)

            have nothing to do with being an artist. There is a retired artist from the 60's NY art scene here that admitted he never really learned how to draw. He became famous doing large circle paintings. Personally, I don't buy into the NY art scene hype. So, yes, drawing comes naturally to some folks more than others. I used to work with children. The ones who quickly mastered the craft usually lost interest. Others dismissed their efforts and defined themselves like you. Me? Showed a bit of promise early on yet I was challenged enough to enjoy working at it. Maybe consider photography the medium in which you get the results that you were looking for in drawing. Free up your creative side and pursue your art anyway that gives you joy. Others will surely follow.

            •  That artistic side. (6+ / 0-)
              Free up your creative side and pursue your art anyway that gives you joy.
              My guitar has spent half a life time trying to find the artistic side of me, and I do believe it's on the verge of finding it. But then again, I started telling myself I'd get there in just one more year, one more year, one more year,.......about five years ago........... So what I'm saying is, just one more year and I'll have it figured out for sure. Or the year after that.

              But not to worry, it works wonders on my soul in the meantime.

              Just give me some truth. John Lennon

              by burnt out on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 06:20:23 PM PST

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          •  I've had art teachers who insist that everyone (5+ / 0-)

            can learn, everyone can be artistic. I think it's mostly true... part of it is finding the media you enjoy.

            Y'know, if you don't like the detail of pencil or pen, try charcoal or pastels. If the surprises that watercolor presents aren't for you, maybe oil or acrylic would suit you better. If you don't like tiny brushes and itty-bitty details, pick up big brushes or a palette knife instead. Or a chunk of wood and a carving knife, or a sewing needle, or a crochet hook.

            Skill with a camera is art too, admirably demonstrated by many here. It's all supposed to be fun, not work....

            •  You may be right, but I have experimented with (4+ / 0-)

              several of those medians already and just haven't been able to do what I was wanting to with them. I carved duck decoys for a couple of years and made what I considered a few truly nice looking decoys but that's what they looked like, working decoys, not art. What I consider art is something, anything, that someone creates and has the ability to evoke some kind of emotions in someone who looks at it, if not that then at least in myself.  My ducks, although pretty cool, didn't do that. And my attempts at painting never even came close. Also tried working with metal and while I can easily make a useable tool or device, I was never able to create anything resembling art. But like I said, you may be right. I haven't quit looking altogether, still experimenting. Thanks

              Just give me some truth. John Lennon

              by burnt out on Wed Feb 12, 2014 at 08:00:28 PM PST

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