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  •  this freaks me out ... (7+ / 0-)

    VW is supposedly only expanding to produce the SUV in Chattanooga, if the workers vote against unionization and the UAW in that plant ?

    Bob Corker must have some loose screws.

    If VW is doing something easily and well, it's dealing with their unions.

    Can't stand it anymore. ... Stand with the UAW and encourage to vote for unionization. I don't know how, but just do it. WTF of a world are we living in?

    •  No, VW wants the union and in fact (6+ / 0-)

      might not expand unless the workers vote to unionize.  It is Corker and those like him that don't want them to unionize.  So by encouraging unionization you are standing with both the UAW and VW.

      You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

      by Throw The Bums Out on Thu Feb 13, 2014 at 12:50:03 AM PST

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      •  I think that the truth (17+ / 0-)

        is that VW wants the works council, but they are neutral on the union.  If US law allowed VW to proceed with a works council without union representation, they probably would.

        The simple fact of the matter is that bringing the UAW in is probably going to have no effect on compensation or benefits. Right now it's difficult to have a grievance structure that workers are going to perceive as unbiased without a union or works council.  In Germany, this wouldn't be an issue, because they can have works councils in the absence of a union.  

        Without a grievance structure, and elected representatives who can confirm that workers' interests are being taken into consider, you can get a lot of push back from the floor.  Slowdowns, sloppiness, etc..... all substantially increase the cost of doing business.  And without a forum for workers to express their voice in the workplace, this is all that employees are left with in order to make their point.  It's a lot cheaper to have an elected council with elected representatives from the labor side, who can go back to the shop floor and sell the decisions that are being made instead of having to deal with reduced production, increased costs, and most importantly poor quality which is going to lead to recalls and customer dissatisfaction.

        This is a business decision on the part of VW, not charity, or solidarity with workers.  It's in the best interest of the company to have peace on the shop floor.  It' s the middle management that's going to lose out here.  If you have a cooperative work environment, the assholes and incompetents among the foremen, and other middle management, become very visible, very quickly.  And, if upper management are acting in the interests of the firm, writ large, they are going to remove these people from the picture.

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        by ManfromMiddletown on Thu Feb 13, 2014 at 01:14:15 AM PST

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        •  Man from Middletown is right (10+ / 0-)

          The workers want the UAW to protect them from nasty bosses.  My friend's brother was fired from VW for a small and stupid matter.  If there were a union, the boss's pettiness would have been in dispute.  

          Right to work really means fire at will.   It sucks.

          "The war was expensive to the South as well as to the North, both in blood and treasure, but it was worth all it cost."- General U.S. Grant, Chattanooga campaign

          by Sandy on Signal on Thu Feb 13, 2014 at 04:42:47 AM PST

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        •  Who decides if VW in Chattanooga (1+ / 0-)
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          can have a works council? Is it VW's decision alone or do they have get "permission" to establish a works council from someone? Or do they have to let the workers themselves vote on establishing a works council ?  You say it's a VW business decision. Then why don't they establish one?

          They could play a role model for this kind of worker's interest representation. May be they are afraid the work's council would be infiltrated with neo-liberal tea-party-koch-brotherish-kabuk- worker's-rights-interest-protecting-big-mouths ...
          WTF.

          Definitely the works council is more effective than the whole UAW unionization process right now.

          But one can definitely support both, or even must support both.

      •  that's the way I understood it. /nt (1+ / 0-)
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