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  •  Nope. You aren't the problem. (6+ / 0-)

    You haven't interacted with that person too much prior to that exchange, I take it. ;-)

    Par for the course.

    Somebody has to do something, and it's just incredibly pathetic that it has to be us. ~ Garcia

    by DeadHead on Fri Feb 14, 2014 at 11:19:41 AM PST

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    •  No, I haven't (9+ / 0-)

      but I've observed his pie fights with you often enough!

      My question above was semi-serious though. I think it's possible for a cynic to become blinded by their worldview and not recognize the whole truth of a given situation.

      For that reason, I've always tried to question my political beliefs on a regular basis, to make sure I'm still in touch with reality. But lately, it seems like as bad as I've thought it was, things are usually actually WORSE. In this country, at this time, is it even possible to be too fucking cynical?

      "Tell the truth and run." -- Yugoslav proverb

      by quill on Fri Feb 14, 2014 at 11:39:40 AM PST

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      •  See my long comment above (3+ / 0-)
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        I think that Americans tend to think in binary. Either everything's ok and getting better or everything bad and going to shit. There's little in-between. We're either optimists or cynics, rarely realists. Seeing, accepting and relating to the world as it actually is goes against the American grain. We don't accept reality. That's for lesser peoples. We create our own reality.

        Some take this in an overly optimistic direction, others in an overly pessimistic direction. But rarely in a realistic direction that accepts that things are rarely as good as we'd like them to be, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're as bad as they could be. We want and expect to get our pony, and when we realize that it's not going to happen, instead of growing up and accepting a pony substitute, we either pursue a different kind of pony, or we just give up entirely and become cynics. Either way, it's a cop out.

        Take Obama. I'm upset that he's turned out to be a lot less progressive and more neoliberal than I'd hoped. But instead of letting this disappointment turn me off on all politicians, I remind myself that most pols are like this, always have been and always will be, and he's no worse than most, just better at pretending to not be like this. We were conned, but instead of dwelling on it, let's just figure out how to move on and do better next time.

        It's only cynical, just as it's only optimistic, if it isn't reality-based.

        "Reagan's dead, and he was a lousy president" -- Keith Olbermann 4/22/09

        by kovie on Fri Feb 14, 2014 at 03:47:53 PM PST

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        •  a little semantic disagreement (3+ / 0-)
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          I hear what you're saying, but see it as a matter of degree. There is such as thing as "blind cynicism", which is just as dysfunctional as "blind optimism". I see cynicism as a good thing, in moderation. Ideally, you're bullshit detectors are fully operational but you're not so disgusted that you just give up and stop fighting.

          Since it's my theme for the day, here's another Carlin quote:

          "Scratch any cynic and you will find a disappointed idealist."

          "Tell the truth and run." -- Yugoslav proverb

          by quill on Fri Feb 14, 2014 at 04:33:17 PM PST

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