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  •  That wasn't what this lady was talking about. (3+ / 0-)
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    Really.  Two inches of snow paralyzed Atlanta.  And there really wasn't much ice. This wasn't like the ginormous storm a few years back when there was the incredible video of someone ice skating down Peachtree street.  

    The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

    by irishwitch on Thu Feb 13, 2014 at 02:46:05 PM PST

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    •  Pictures that I saw (10+ / 0-)

      were of tractor trailers unable to get traction on the icy roads.  I read reports of black ice in some areas.  The point is that most southern cities do not have snow plows or provisions for salting the roads because it does not happen often. People in the north are prepared to drive under winter conditions.

      In the case of Interstate 10, it was closed in my area of north Florida due to ice and that was the first time I can recall in my decades of living here.

      "I don't want to run the empire, I want to bring it down!" ~ Dr. Cornel West "It was a really naked declaration of imperialism." ~ Jeremy Scahill on Obama's speech to the UN

      by gulfgal98 on Thu Feb 13, 2014 at 03:14:46 PM PST

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      •  Umm, gulfgal, I'm sitting right here in central (3+ / 0-)
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        North Carolina.  The snow just stopped a few minutes ago.  I have been driving on the salt that was sprayed on the road since the last snow and the salt that was sprayed prior to this storm.  

        I just heard the trucks that scraped my very rural road and hope that I will have no problem getting out tomorrow.  Now getting down my long steep driveway, might be a whole different problem. But that that is my problem.

        To say that Southern cities are not prepared for snowy or icy road conditions which are not really that uncommon in many areas is not exactly true.

        Hey, you folks in Florida are all on your own.

        •  It takes a lot of salt to melt an inch of ice (2+ / 0-)
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          We got lucky where I live in NC to get mostly snow then a tenth of an inch of ice. In South Carolina, where they got an inch of ice, the road crews had downed trees & power lines to deal with as well as hundreds of wrecks. Then they needed to get the roads salted, somehow.

          “Industry does everything they can and gets away with it almost all the time, whether it’s the coal industry, not the subject of this hearing, or water or whatever. They will cut corners, and they will get away with it. " Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D, WVa

          by FishOutofWater on Thu Feb 13, 2014 at 04:21:14 PM PST

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          •  Ice or frozen rain is a whole different (1+ / 0-)
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            ball game, isn't it?  It presents a different set of problems with downed power lines and trees, and impassable roads.  

            There have been times when I could not walk across the road in the front of my driveway without falling flat on my posterior.

            I don't know that any area can do anything more for this than say stay home until things thaw.

            I think my point was to say that thinking the "South" isn't prepared for bad weather isn't exactly true.  That may have been true in the past, but I don't think that is the case any more.

        •  What I am saying (3+ / 0-)

          is in response to those in northern states who have bashed some of us who live in deep south states.  Some of that is based upon political biases that serve no purpose.  For the record, I spend quite a bit of time in NC also and have found that NC is fairly well prepared for snow and ice.  But those of us in Florida and much of the other far south states rarely encounter these extreme winter conditions.  We cope as best we can.  

          "I don't want to run the empire, I want to bring it down!" ~ Dr. Cornel West "It was a really naked declaration of imperialism." ~ Jeremy Scahill on Obama's speech to the UN

          by gulfgal98 on Thu Feb 13, 2014 at 05:54:01 PM PST

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          •  I LIVE down here. in Barrow County. (0+ / 0-)

            People better start planning for these extreme conditions because climate change pretty much guarantees they will be more frequent.

            FWIW, I found MD and DC didn't use to handle it well either.   They'd never close the schools until after I was already on my way.....

            The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

            by irishwitch on Thu Feb 13, 2014 at 06:27:43 PM PST

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    •  "Ice" IS, in fact, what she was talking about (8+ / 0-)

      She WAS, in fact, talking about the ice that made much of Atlanta a skating rink.

      There was ENOUGH ice. It doesn't have to be very thick to be slippery.

      You are wrong on this. You should remember the first rule of holes, and stop digging when you're in one.

    •  Uh, 1/4 of the trees in Atlanta are set to die (1+ / 0-)
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      because of the cumulative effect of ice and wind in storm after storm. If the trees aren't able to handle it, then maybe it's not that illogical that people aren't, either.

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