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  •  Agreed on all points... (1+ / 0-)
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    Jay C

    ...and there's a definite need to (at least try to) reach and teach those folks.  Many of the folks doing that are, themselves, believers.  We should respect that.

    Ridiculing belief only accomplishes two things, neither of which is positive; it further alienates those we would try to reach/teach, and it offends many of those working alongside.

    The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

    by wesmorgan1 on Fri Feb 14, 2014 at 08:46:06 AM PST

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    •  I disagree that ridicule does nothing positive. (0+ / 0-)

      Ridicule is really just a form of social stigma, and it serves as a deterrent against people holding certain beliefs. I actually believe that some beliefs DESERVE ridicule. For example, someone who believes that the universe is 6,000 years old and that that belief should be taught in public schools deserves to be ridiculed for that belief (because their belief is stupid and uneducated). Someone who believes that the Bible says gay people or black people are inferior deserves to be ridiculed for that belief. Ridicule is just part of the way that society and culture weeds out bad ideas and relegates them to fringe groups.

      I think that there is a place for more than one kind of advocacy, and that different approaches to social reform work in a complementary fashion. The civil rights movement, for example, needed BOTH the Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s AND the Malcolm X's. So we need people who try to come to a peaceable accommodation with the majority that ends up benefiting everyone in the end, but we also need people who dig in their heels and confront stupidity and evil head on. We need both fighters and peacemakers, and that goes for any social change movement.

      •  A few parting comments... (0+ / 0-)

        I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one, so I'll close with this...you wrote:

        Ridicule is really just a form of social stigma, and it serves as a deterrent against people holding certain beliefs.
        Actually, it's a deterrent against people expressing certain beliefs publicly; it does nothing to "reach and teach" in order to change beliefs.  In fact, it often causes them to, as you put it, "dig in their heels."

        Nonetheless, you're making the same distinction as did I.  You said, "someone who believes that the universe is 6,000 years old and that that belief should be taught in public schools", not "all Christians," right?  That's entirely appropriate; there are millions of Christians who AREN'T young-earthers.

        Mock the words and actions of individuals as you will, sure, but not the entire belief system and not as an indictment of all believers.  There's a difference.

        The word "parent" is supposed to be a VERB, people...

        by wesmorgan1 on Fri Feb 14, 2014 at 02:21:07 PM PST

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