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  •  I wasn't suggesting that she has any right (5+ / 0-)
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    lunachickie, DSPS owl, Tool, JosephK74, niemann

    to protection against criticism.

    Don't we tell right-wingers that trying to understand someone's behavior is not the same as condoning it?

    The older I get, the less I believe in free will. The less I believe in free will the less I feel like judging people. But that doesn't mean I don't criticize their behavior.

    •  No, you really weren't (4+ / 0-)
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      and I'm sorry if it seemed like I was saying otherwise. I would again acknowledge that you made some good points, because you really did. The point I was getting at, though, is that there's a place where "making allowances" for someone's upbringing/belief systems must be balanced with "others' lives and freedoms", when one's upbringing/belief systems compel them to act out in public like this.

      I can't be forgiving when this kind of ugly is dragged out willingly by its purveyors, no matter how they were brought up--and I've been trying to be patient for a good couple of decades now. Like I said, if she wants to be a hateful bigot at home, fine. But it is time to shun these selfish, ugly people in public, full-stop. They don't want to change, and they don't want to consider anyone else's feelings. And I am damned tired of trying to be "patient" when the kind of hate they espouse often enables bullying, violence and death.

      At some point it goes from "try to find patience for the allowances of belief systems that you are unfamiliar with and should therefore try to be tolerant of, because YOU don't understand it" into a place where we unintentionally "enable prejudice" by trying to be "tolerant", even when we can clearly see that the other person is not. There is nothing more to understand about people like that. The vast majority, when asked, make no bones about what they base this garbage on--their Bible. Fine. They're entitled to interpret a book wrongly or any other way they want, but they do not have the right to force that on the rest of us. Why presume they're engaging honestly enough to warrant your understanding? They're not. They'll double-down when pushed, claiming it's Teh Gay that's the problem, that they "shove their sexuality down everyone's throat", never ever considering that the reason gay people have to be extra-open about their sexuality in some cases is merely out of a sense of self-preservation in this sick society we live in. Because of people like her. And precisely because she and the minority of America which still "believes" in this type of prejudice would never afford any of us the same courtesy that we've fallen all over ourselves to afford them, it's time to flat-out draw the line and insist, openly and loudly enough to shout them down once and for all--whether they were brought up that way, or they're just stupid, or whatever--that "This behavior is unacceptable, regardless of what you believe. You keep it at home, because you are not welcome anywhere else with it."  

      This all started with "what the Republicans did to language".

      by lunachickie on Fri Feb 14, 2014 at 10:54:33 AM PST

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