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  •  But are you saying that because he was African (4+ / 0-)

    American he should not have been prosecuted, or that his conviction was flawed?

    I did not research these details and just presumed that our system of justice has worked properly.  If we only write about corruption when it is done by Republicans then we risk creating the appearance or even reality that our concern about corruption in Christie's case is just partisan politics.

    For the same reason, I intend to research and report on the U.S. Attorney's investigation of the allegations against Democratic Senator Menendez. And, I expect those posts will get only a miniscule fraction of the recs here that an equivalent post on a Republican but I believe those of us who believe government plays a vital role have an obligation to maintain its integrity without regard to race, party, gender, sexual identity of the alleged perpetrators.

    Don't you agree?

    The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

    by HoundDog on Fri Feb 14, 2014 at 09:20:47 AM PST

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      I believe those of us who believe government plays a vital role have an obligation to maintain its integrity without regard to race, party, gender, sexual identity of the alleged perpetrators.
      that's the ideal but we've seen huge corruption from republicans and they seem to get away with a lot of it. that applies to setting people up.

      sounds like nagin was corrupt but the bush/rove crime family also diverted a lot of blame to him and other dems for their katrina event and it worked to a large extent. they were after many of those dem politicians in La and how much is a holdover from that? how many of those nagin crimes are standard for republican officeholders who will never get prosecuted?

      one standard way for republicans to exert those double standards is with right wing radio. a dem with a hint of corruption can be targeted for regular attacks by local radio hacks, maybe with paid callers helping out. it happens all the time, they way they swiftbaoat every major dem in elections and create BS like beghazi. during and after katrina nagin was named by llimbaugh and co on a regular basis- blaming him and other dems for the bush/cheney/rove disaster (crimes).

      and they have no problem setting someone up (or worse) for political gain (see DON SIEGELMAN - gov - of alabama). the hypocrisy and denial and double standards are part of being a new republican.

      for the republican brain trust they know they have to cheat to win elections. and they know they need corrupt flawed people at all levels of the judicial system. or people who have sexual secrets they don't want out. spy agencies recruit gays for that reason. blackmailable people with secrets make the best servants in the republican power structure, from cops to spies to presidents.

      that's one reason the 'thinkers' don't want homosexuality acceptable- they lose that leverage.

      This is a list of 76 universities for Rush Limbaugh that endorse global warming denial, racism, sexism, and GOP lies by broadcasting sports on over 170 Limbaugh radio stations.

      by certainot on Fri Feb 14, 2014 at 10:21:47 AM PST

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      •  You make good points. If you told me Nagin was (1+ / 0-)
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        really innocent I'd go back and research it. If he was a victim of "selective enforcement" by Republican prosecutors it wouldn't surprise me, but I do not know if there is much we can do about it, but hit back as hard as we can when there is corruption on the right. You may have seen the many posts I've done recently calling attention to Governor Christie's alleged misdeeds.

        I do not favor our system of justice degenerating into a partisan boxing match, so I admit to the possibility of a certain amount of partisanship on my part.

        I agree with what I think is your point, that the Republicans are more to blame for it. I'm sorry if my post comparing Nagin to Christie hit a wrong nerve, I can easily understand that, and that wasn't not my intent. I despised the Bush/Cheney administration for numerous reasons.  The damage they have done to our country and system of government is so extensive that it is hard to make a list of it all.  Contributing to partisan polarization is part of it.

        I feel bad that I seem to be jumping in, partially in reactivity. But a purely "turn the other cheek" strategy here seems so idealistic I'm find it difficult to follow.

        Thanks for your though provoking responses.

        The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

        by HoundDog on Fri Feb 14, 2014 at 11:21:52 AM PST

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