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  •  The problem is that in order for a complaint (8+ / 0-)

    to move forward in a legal way, where a rapist can be accused and then convicted of a crime, a victim must go through her chain of command. If she merely wants to be counseled and medically cared for, she can skip her commander. But then she can't file charges.

    There are many cases where the command has either been directly involved with the rape or believes that it takes two to tango and therefore these cases aren't really rape cases but more a mistake that should never have happened.

    I fully support Senator Gillibrand in this.

    •  I have so much respect for you, personally, (2+ / 0-)
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      angelajean, Adam AZ

      angelajean, that I'm inclined just to trust your judgement on this, since you know it better than I do.  

      Do you see any possibility of allowing both systems to coexist? I thought Senator McCaskill made a strong argument that in some cases victims might feel more comfortable approaching a unit commander than an outside lawyer, especially if it were a borderline case, or the evidence was lacking. I can imagine someone going to their commander, informally, more easily than an outside lawyer investigator which is going to create a highly visible
      "situation" with interrogations, visits, etc. that could lead to fear of retaliation.

      The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

      by HoundDog on Fri Feb 14, 2014 at 09:32:40 AM PST

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      •  There is nothing preventing a victim from going (9+ / 0-)

        to a Commander in Senator Gillbrand's legislation. Nothing.

        What Senator Gillbrand's legislation does is place the decision to take a case to court into the hands of the military justice system. But that doesn't stop a soldier, sailor, airman, or a Marine from reporting that rape to a commander first and asking that commander to help. But if by chance you don't trust your commander - for example they've made it clear that if you were drinking too much that they think you're to blame, for example, then it gives you another direction to turn. Right now, that other direction doesn't exist.

        •  OK, you convinced me, Angelajean. I'll support (2+ / 0-)
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          Roadbed Guy, angelajean

          the Gillibrand bill.

          On another matter, I have a problem with Senator Gillibrand's support for the Menendez Iran sanctions bill which attempted to sabotage President Obama's diplomatic efforts, despite the President repeated requests not to.  I had hoped she might be a future Democratic presidential candidate, however, IMO she's disqualified herself.

          She did eventually back down, under progressive pressure but it was discouraging to see her siding with the right and AIPAC against our President of the United States on a matter of national security. We need to hold these "saboteur Senators" accountable.

          The means is the ends in the process of becoming. - Mahatma Gandhi

          by HoundDog on Fri Feb 14, 2014 at 11:08:48 AM PST

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