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  •  What A Joke (8+ / 0-)

    That's like the bank robber saying: But just think of all the banks I didn't rob!

    Fuel standards. Give me a break. Here is the bottom line: coal exports up 50% under Obama; more deepwater drilling than Bush-Cheney; unleashing the worldwide scourge of fracking (you think Obama will mention fracking water usage when he wrings his hands and whines about the CA drought?); U.S. carbon emissions up 2% last year; worldwide carbon emissions skyrocketing.

    Open your eyes.

    •  Oh I get it, increasing fuel efficiency standards (1+ / 0-)
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      or creating the most extensive expansion of land and water conservation in more than a generation through the President's signing of the Omnibus Public Land Management Act is simply a joke.

      His effort to clean up toxic pollution the the establishing of the first-ever national limits for mercury and other toxic air pollution from power plants, which will prevent up to 11,000 premature deaths, 4,700 heart attacks, and 130,000 cases of childhood asthma symptoms each year is also a joke.  

      The Recovery Act set aside unprecedented funding of nearly 11 billion dollars  for programs and projects that will protect the environment, such as green job training to marine habitat restoration to water quality improvements.

      My question is this, what did the President before Obama did to help the environment? What did Al Gore himself did as vice President to help the environment? What has your environmental heroes done in a generation before Obama in terms of instituting policy to help the environment? Has any of them even made an effort to cut fuel efficiency standards in cars, not to mention accomplishing it?

      Oh yeah, Obama is such a joke...let's try and compare  Obama against actual accomplishments of other presidents in a generation. Compare him to the policy accomplishments of Al Gore.

      What a "joke" Obama is....

      •  Increase* fuel efficiency standards. So scoffable (0+ / 0-)
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        " the most extensive expansion of land and water conservation in more than a generation through the President's signing of the Omnibus Public Land Management Act is simply a joke."

        Actually, that bill was negotiated by the Bush White House and was signed some two months into his term.

        •  Your statement is false. Bush DID NOT negotiate (0+ / 0-)

          the Omnibus Public Land Management Act. Here is the LA Times  on the issue from April of 2009:

          On Monday, President Obama signed the Omnibus Public Lands Management Act, placing more than 2 million acres of public land in nine states under Wilderness Act protection. The new legislation preserves remote glacial valleys in Wyoming, fragile deserts in California and dense forests in northern Michigan, making these and other tracts of pristine land permanently off-limits to road building, oil and gas drilling and commercial timber harvesting.

          But for all the joy the law brings to those who treasure America's wild places, it was nevertheless a bittersweet victory. After eight years of the George W. Bush administration's assault on public lands, there's still so much to be done -- and undone.


          The Obama administration and Congress should be applauded for protecting 2 million acres of public land, but that does not begin to make up for all that was lost during the Bush years. And swift action is necessary to stop further erosion of environmental protections. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar has only until May 9 to reverse the Bush changes to Endangered Species Act rules. Obama should order his Justice Department to settle lawsuits filed by environmental groups, vacating many Bush policies. And Congress needs to pass a strong legislative package, bills such as the proposed Roadless Area Conservation Act, which would protect wilderness areas in our national forests.

          Not all of the damage to our land and its creatures can be reversed. But new laws and federal regulations could at least create a solid legal foundation on which large-scale restoration can begin.

          How did Bush Negotiate this legislation again? Anything to attack Obama (smh) Where is the joke you say?
      •  Obama is No Joke (0+ / 0-)

        His actions (and inactions) are deadly serious and will cause future generations untold misery. Nothing funny about it. What is funny, however, is pretending that raising auto fuel efficiency standards makes up for all Obama's treachery, betrayal and obsequiousness to Big Oil.

      •  I do like Obama (1+ / 0-)
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        But you're way off base here.

        i do not believe that he is ignorant to the reality of the situation we're in, which is much more dire than most reports would have you believe.

        Yes, he has taken steps, but they are small steps and I believe he is aware of that.

        There is no reason to let him off the hook and applaud his minor accomplishments in this arena when he can, and should, do much more.

        It seems to me that the people who applaud Obama the most seem to be the most unaware of how much more he can do. You do realize, I hope, that our nation is one of the worst of all first world countries when it comes to this crisis (and many others), yet the face of this country refuses to take a strong, tangible stand on it.

        This is not a crisis that we can reverse. You have to understand that. I believe Obama is smart enough to realize that.

        So why all the shrugs?

        P.S. I am not a crackpot.

        by BoiseBlue on Fri Feb 14, 2014 at 06:18:05 PM PST

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        •  Are you actually telling me that I should join (0+ / 0-)

          with the frequent pursuit of some on this site to minimize the President's accomplishments? The issue here is, can any of these individuals produce any US President who has done more for the environment over the past 25 or 30
          years than Barack Obama? Can you provide one?

          Minimizing the President's accomplishments go way back in this community, from his saving the US economy from a second Great Depression, to the healthcare law which some here have tried for years to discredit as a sellout or a law that should be killed or scrapped, thumbing their noses at a piece of legislation that will give tens of millions of people access to healthcare. OBAMA is A JOKE is not a sentiment that is only reserved for people on the right, but indeed loud and clear on the left.

          Now in terms of increasing fuel efficiency standards in vehicles This "joke" or "minor accomplishment" which no US President had ever done before, will Reduce greenhouse gas emissions: Perhaps the most important environmental benefit is the avoidance of CO2 emissions from burning fuel.

          U.S. cars and light trucks account for more than 23 percent of total U.S. greenhouse gas emissions annually (EPA and NHTSA 2011), so reductions in our vehicle emissions are important for global climate protection. NRDC estimates a reduction of nearly 300 million metric tons annually in 2030; similarly, the White House estimates 6 billion metric tons will be avoided over the lifetime of the CAFE

          standards (NRDC 2012, White House 2011).

          If you care about the environment, this is not a minor accomplishment.

          •  I never suggested such a thng (1+ / 0-)
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            You are free to applaud his accomplishments. I'm only saying that in this arena, no, he has not done enough to even slightly slow down climate change.

            Second, I'm not sure where you get the idea that he's the first to increase fuel efficiency standards. Fuel efficiency standards have been in place since the 1970's. In the US, they were mostly stagnant in the 90's, then in 2007 were increased again. Before Obama became president.

            He is not the first person to do this, and in fact it was California that got the ball rolling on the new standards. They implemented them and fought the industry in court, and the new standards are the result of a compromise made between those parties.

            So you can applaud him for this; I'm not trying to stop you or suggesting that you shouldn't. I'm pointing out that the US is still way behind other first world nations, and we simply don't have time to take small steps when it comes to climate change. We are already living it and it's going to get a lot worse.

            And I believe Obama is aware of that.

            P.S. I am not a crackpot.

            by BoiseBlue on Sat Feb 15, 2014 at 02:06:35 AM PST

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            •  "And I believe Obama is aware of that" (0+ / 0-)

              Yes, he is. And that is what triggered my strong reaction.

              Obama knows what's happening. So does Moniz. So does Chu, who admits -- now that he's out of office, of course -- that the Carbon Barons will burn all the fossil fuel it can get its hands on and Government will stop them. Which means that we will just have to suck it up and learn to suffer through the consequences of catastrophic global warming. Privatize the profit and socialize the (catastrophic) costs.

              That is what "mitigation" means. That is what "resilience" means. That is what the neoliberals like Obama mean when they talk about "adaptation." They mean they have no intention of keeping the fossil fuels in the ground even though the consequences will be calamitous. They already are!

              Obama and the other neoliberals have given up on AGW and they expect us to give up too. They are slaves to Big Oil. That's what neoliberalism is: Government acting as the handmaiden for Big Money. And if the planet fries along the way? Tough. Adapt to it.

              I do apologize for my vehemence but, as you say, Obama knows damn well what he is doing and it is appalling.

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